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Post by xenna on Jun 18, 2012 22:38:03 GMT -4
Sadly, I think Mia has done more to fuck up this kid (emotionally) than Woody ever has. I mean, Woody hasn't had anything to do with his son in about 15 years now, yet Ronan still feels the need to make pointless attacks?
I bet Mia is behind it all. So sad that she won't let Ronan grow past his alienation and keeps stoking the flames of anger. Ronan would do better to be allowed to forget Woody's existence.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2012 22:42:03 GMT -4
I don't know, from his Wikipedia page it sounds like he's doing some pretty great and useful things in his life. Sure, he might still be f'd up privately, but he doesn't seem to be spending his life brooding over bad times and getting himself into trouble. How could you forget your dad's existence anyway? I don't think that's possible or healthy for anyone, especially if the dad is a public person like Woody, and your mom is famous and all of the shenanigans played out in public.
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xenna
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Post by xenna on Jun 18, 2012 22:53:17 GMT -4
I don't know, from his Wikipedia page it sounds like he's doing some pretty great and useful things in his life. Sure, he might still be f'd up privately, but he doesn't seem to be spending his life brooding over bad times and getting himself into trouble. How could you forget your dad's existence anyway? I don't think that's possible or healthy for anyone, especially if the dad is a public person like Woody, and your mom is famous and all of the shenanigans played out in public. That's why I said emotionally. The kid has achieved a lot, but since none of Mia's other kids have done much with their lives, I guess he gets his brains from Woody? I think Ronan could easily forget Woody's existence if he was given half a chance, he seems to keep very busy. But I get the feeling that every phone call from Mia ends with her saying to him, "I love you, and don't forget your father married your sister. Bye!" Not helpful.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2012 22:56:55 GMT -4
Yeah, he's not going to forget his father or his sister or the enormous moral transgression they committed. That he's able to find humor in it could be a sign that he's processing it healthily. This wasn't an "attack", it was a joke and if that's the worst thing Ronan ever says publicly about his biological father, Woody is getting off easy. Woody and Soon-Yi, in my opinion, don't deserve to ever be let off the hook for what they did.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2012 22:59:15 GMT -4
Yeah, I don't doubt Mia might be very... errr... unforgiving, but Ronan being such a smart cookie at an early age might have also experienced that whole thing quite strongly all on his own. And while he might have gotten his brains from Woody, he seems to have gotten the whole "help the world!" thing from Mia. I don't know. With that kind of blended, huge, famous family, I just think it would be a complex, good-bad-crazy-fun situation even without your dad acting like a total dick. And I admire him for apparently using his intelligence to actually do good work. Every family has some screwy parts in it, some screwier than others obviously!, and it's just nice to see a member of a really famously screwy family not piss it away on fame-whoring and drugs or whatever. Also, I thought his joke was funny. It wasn't even that bitter-sounding to me: just rather descriptive, in a funny way. I do think it says something about Mia that she retweeted it though.
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Post by Mutagen on Jun 18, 2012 23:03:26 GMT -4
Sadly, I think Mia has done more to fuck up this kid (emotionally) than Woody ever has. I mean, Woody hasn't had anything to do with his son in about 15 years now, yet Ronan still feels the need to make pointless attacks? I'm sorry, I am absolutely blown away by this. First of all, there is no statute of limitations on being angry when your father abandons you, let alone if it happens under circumstances as creepy and fucked-up as Woody and Soon-Yi. If Ronan is angry, that is a normal response. Second of all, how in the world does Mia Farrow being angry about her husband fucking her adopted daughter get judged more harshly than, y'know, Woody deciding to fuck Mia's adopted daughter?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2012 23:16:20 GMT -4
Sadly, I think Mia has done more to fuck up this kid (emotionally) than Woody ever has. I mean, Woody hasn't had anything to do with his son in about 15 years now, yet Ronan still feels the need to make pointless attacks? I'm sorry, I am absolutely blown away by this. First of all, there is no statute of limitations on being angry when your father abandons you, let alone if it happens under circumstances as creepy and fucked-up as Woody and Soon-Yi. If Ronan is angry, that is a normal response. Second of all, how in the world does Mia Farrow being angry about her husband fucking her adopted daughter get judged more harshly than, y'know, Woody deciding to fuck Mia's adopted daughter? Ronan Farrow's a freaking genius. I don't think he "got" his brains from anyone, so I refuse to give Woody any credit for that at all. That tweet was a sick burn and I'm still in love with it a day later. (That being said, Midnight in Paris was totally my favorite movie last year. Le sigh.)
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xenna
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Post by xenna on Jun 18, 2012 23:18:16 GMT -4
Ronan should try therapy. It's perfect for these situations. His anger does him no good at this point.
At least Woody removed himself from the situation (once he lost his custody bid) to avoid inflaming emotions. Mia still seems to be living the day he left her for Soon-Yi over and over again in her mind. An awful situation to put Ronan in. That's why I currently blame her more.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2012 23:39:52 GMT -4
Ronan should try therapy. It's perfect for these situations. His anger does him no good at this point. I don't think any of us are in a position to judge what his emotions are and whether or not they're doing him any good based on one tweeted joke. For all we know, his blistering rage is what's propelled him to academic and professional success. Or not. At least Woody removed himself from the situation (once he lost his custody bid) to avoid inflaming emotions. Mia still seems to be living the day he left her for Soon-Yi over and over again in her mind. An awful situation to put Ronan in. That's why I currently blame her more. Woody didn't remove himself from the situation. Removing himself would have been ending the sick and twisted affair with his children's sister and moving to LA. He dug himself even deeper into the situation by marrying Soon-Yi, making himself his son's brother-in-law. I'll guess that inflamed a few emotions, not to mention managed to alienate Soon-yi from her entire family. I have no idea how Woody and Soon-Yi managed to adopt. What birth parents chose them? What social worker thought either of them had acceptable boundaries or even a basic respect for the meaning of adoption and family? How do they explain their heinousness to their daughters? "Well, you're sisters... but not really. Totally put that in air quotes, kids. Go ahead and date each other if you want."
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Post by Witchie on Jun 18, 2012 23:54:09 GMT -4
I thought the tweet was funny. It's the truth. There's no getting around it, regardless of what Soon-Yi & Woody have told themselves. We have no idea what he has gone through to get to this place where he's a functioning, intelligent, witty adult. If he has residual anger, so what? Why should he be okay with what happened to him, to his mother, to his family?
dgupzy, I wondered about the adoptions too. I get an icky feeling when viewing pictures of Woody with his daughters. Nothing may be going on, but if he did it once, what's to stop him from doing it again?
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