dwanollah
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Oct 5, 2024 22:27:57 GMT -4
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Post by dwanollah on Jul 12, 2010 18:51:46 GMT -4
Yeah, but we did that 25 years ago with Duran Duran videos, so FAIL, Twilight! Nick Rhodes is more Sparkly Vampire than Edward Cullen could ever be!
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Post by Witchie on Jul 12, 2010 19:20:53 GMT -4
Yeah, but we did that 25 years ago with Duran Duran videos, so FAIL, Twilight! Nick Rhodes is more Sparkly Vampire than Edward Cullen could ever be! ;D This woman speaks the truth.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2010 4:11:58 GMT -4
Right, but in Twilight, there's not even any sex. That was another thing we were flummoxed by--it's a vampire story, where was the sex? I guess they have sex when they get married? Most women's erotica focuses on the build-up to sex - it's thought that the build-up is just as thrilling to the readers as the consummation. In the Twilight books it's all build up and because the sex doesn't happen (and when it does it's not in explicit detail) the reader gets to experience the thrills without feeling like they're reading a smutty book.
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regencydrama
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Post by regencydrama on Jul 14, 2010 22:45:43 GMT -4
It's interesting that most of us think the third film was decent, because it seems like TwiMom have the opposite opinion.
According to a Twilight lovin' friend, a majority of the TwiMoms believe the screenwriter made Bella too independent, and took away the heart of the story. Some of their nitpicks -
- Bella willingly driving off with Jacob - Alice asking Bella to sleepover as opposed to "kidnapping her" - No dry humping (no, seriously) - Lack of clarification that Edward disabeled Bella's car in the name of Twu Wuv
I ventured over to the TwiMom boards out of curiosity, and there's actually a lot of people deliberately accusing the screenwriter of trying to countermand SMeyer, and referring to the writer as "womens libber". They're also livid that Bella wasn't made to seem like she was dropping everything for Edward.
I know it's kind of a dead horse at this point, but god damn. I can't believe these women are actually pissed that the screenwriter chose to gave Bella some freedom of thought. If anything, I think the screenwriter improved the romance. Rather than have Bella seemed completely without a spine, she actually showed Bella weighing up option, making choice, and not being all Edward, all the time. That gives credibility to the relationhip imho.
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Post by angelaudie on Jul 14, 2010 23:05:31 GMT -4
Well, SM is Mormon so yeah no nookie until Edward puts a ring on it. Once they are married it's nonstop sex (well once the vampire/human hybrid is born).
I wonder if SM is aware that vampire stories often have themes of sexual repression especially for women. For example, in Dracula there are two female characters, Mina and Lucy. Mina is rather sexually repressed and in the end does not become a vampire. Lucy, meanwhile, is a bit of a flirt and clearly enjoys having so many men wanting her. Lucy is made into a vampire and becomes rather sexually aggressive. In the end, she is staked in the name of returning her to purity and light.
Since vampires are often portrayed as sexually aggressive beings that prey on innocent humans it is kinda interesting the roles are reversed in Twilight. Edward is the sexually repressed being while Bella is "preying" on Edward. Yeah, once they are married they go at it like bunnies but prior to marriage it was almost like Edward feared sex.
Lord, that is depressing. Honestly, the so-called independent traits aren't really that major. It's not like Bella decided she had enough of Jacob and Edward's emo bull, decided she wanted to focus on herself, ended things with both of them, and started hanging out with her friends again. Now, that would have been Bella showing independence!
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dwanollah
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Post by dwanollah on Jul 14, 2010 23:22:41 GMT -4
Sorry, Dylan and Brandon Edward and Jacob... I choose me.
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Post by angelaudie on Jul 14, 2010 23:55:54 GMT -4
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sumire
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Post by sumire on Jul 15, 2010 5:02:19 GMT -4
Jesus Christ! Maybe they can get together with Michelle Duggar and the Ladies Against Feminism and they can all time travel back to Switzerland before the 1970s.
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Post by tabby on Jul 23, 2010 13:18:52 GMT -4
My almost-13-year-old stepdaughter has gotten into Buffy on Hulu. She's read Twilight, because her friends did, but she didn't like it much. (She's asked me what I think, and I've told her frankly my opinions of the anti-feminist message and abysmal writing.) She told me at dinner one day, "You know, Buffy would kick Bella's butt." And she would.
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Post by Coffeecakes on Jul 25, 2010 17:42:39 GMT -4
Buffy would also kill the whole Cullen family. Too bad she doesn't pop up in the movies and finishes everyone.
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