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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2008 22:04:48 GMT -4
I really enjoyed Cleolinda's recap and will definitely watch this movie when it comes on TV or if I can borrow the DVD off someone, whichever comes first. So what I want to know is, in Meyer's universe, vampires have sex? Like normal penis-vajayjay sex? With undead spermy bits that make vampire zygotes? I don't think Anne Rice's vampires had teh sex but with these teenage vampires these days...
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Post by BoroKat on Nov 27, 2008 2:32:17 GMT -4
Liked it!
Much better than the book. Both the leads did a good job, and I found it to be very different from the book, very streamlined, tight, and thankfully free of Meyer's ridonkulous Mary Sueness. Pattinson did a great job with the role- he was awkward, funny, and endearing- and this might be weird to say, but more HUMAN. Edward in the book was written as this cold, perfect statue, and I am glad that Hardwicke broke away from that.
I have to say, I was disappointed with the sparkle. Edward looked like he was just lightly sweating to me.
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Post by MrsCatHead on Nov 27, 2008 2:44:00 GMT -4
Going with my friend and her preteen daughter on Monday night. Should be interesting!
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Post by tamaradixon on Nov 27, 2008 8:21:02 GMT -4
....twice so far and I'll likely be going again before its out of theatres.
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Post by BoroKat on Nov 27, 2008 10:00:19 GMT -4
I thought that the kissing scene was pretty hot.
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Post by susyhomewrecker on Nov 27, 2008 15:00:20 GMT -4
I really enjoyed Cleolinda's recap and will definitely watch this movie when it comes on TV or if I can borrow the DVD off someone, whichever comes first. So what I want to know is, in Meyer's universe, vampires have sex? Like normal penis-vajayjay sex? With undead spermy bits that make vampire zygotes? Apparently. Edward's "brothers" tell him about how great sex is prior to his and Bella's honeymoon, and his "sister" claims she and her husband (who is also one of Edward's brothers) destroyed several houses with their sexing. I'm not entirely convinced Stephenie Meyer has more than a rudimentary understanding of how babies are made. Supposedly vampires' bodies do not ever change--they don't sleep, breathe, or need bathroom breaks. It's mentioned specifically that a female vampire cannot bear a child because "a woman's body has to change" to do so...and yet Edward has 90-year-old sperm? Sorry, not buying it.
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Post by angelaudie on Nov 27, 2008 15:23:35 GMT -4
I admit I find this odd too yet Meyer is not the first author to state in their stories male vampires have sperm and can father children while female vampires can't conceive. I guess it's one of those things authors hope their readers don't notice. I wouldn't find it so annoying if an author actually gave a reason why the female vampires can't become pregnant while male vampires can still father children.
I don't find it odd in Meyer's universe vampires have sex. Aren't vampires supposed to sexual creatures who seduce people to get close their necks?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2008 17:29:14 GMT -4
I'm not entirely convinced Stephenie Meyer has more than a rudimentary understanding of how babies are made. Supposedly vampires' bodies do not ever change--they don't sleep, breathe, or need bathroom breaks. It's mentioned specifically that a female vampire cannot bear a child because "a woman's body has to change" to do so...and yet Edward has 90-year-old sperm? Sorry, not buying it. Ditto. Especially the first sentence. Of course, this is an author who, according to her website, didn't get into reproductive systems in order "to keep the books clean and not make young girls think about things they don't need to think about." (Given that sex and pregnancy occur and are discussed in the books, deal with the hypocrisy of that statement for a moment.) Judging by the overall quality of her writing I'd have to say she's of the "because I said so/a wizard did it!" school of explanation/logic. I don't necessarily mind vampires having sex in general, but since they are, in traditional mythology, dead, I think being capable of reproduction is pretty silly, and the convoluted ways that authors try to explain how they can reproduce are usually pretty silly also. As I recall Laurell K. Hamilton's vamps can supposedly impregnate someone if their body temperature is raised enough, say by doing it in a hot tub. Anne Rice just stated that her vampires were sexually dead and got their gratification through blood rather than through their nether regions, which I think is fair enough and eliminates a lot of biological confusion (probably for the best, since her Mayfair Witches series revealed that Rice's grasp of reproductive systems is also quite weak. There must be some sort of lack of information/sexual repression thing going on with all these vampire authors). ETA: I just realized this has nothing to do with the movie, and I'm sorry. I blame turkey overload.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2008 17:47:16 GMT -4
Anne Rice just stated that her vampires were sexually dead and got their gratification through blood rather than through their nether regions, which I think is fair enough and eliminates a lot of biological confusion (probably for the best, since her Mayfair Witches series revealed that Rice's grasp of reproductive systems is also quite weak. There must be some sort of lack of information/sexual repression thing going on with all these vampire authors). I haven't read the Mayfair Witches series but did blitz through the Lestat books when I was a teen and I liked and accepted the fact that the Rice vampires didn't have normal bodily functions and hence the no-sex thing made sense as they were devoid of the usual human urges (and I think for Lestat IIRC he found human bodily functions disgusting). I can take a leap of faith up to a certain point but there must be some logic even in fantasyland. So Edward is undead and doesn't eat, sleep,breathe, poo etc but his little swimmers are alive and kicking? Yet presumably female vampires are infertile because their eggs are dead? I think reading the books would annoy me too much and I think I'm too old for them (Meyer sounds like this generation's VC Andrews) but the movie looks like it's campy fun. Robert Pattinson looks hotter in motion, I think he photographs in a weird way. And he needs to degrease the hair.
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Post by scarlet on Nov 27, 2008 17:56:25 GMT -4
I have no problem suspending disbelief as far as vamps having sexy time, but the impregnation issue was a huge leap. And vamp-baby was just creepy--probably the result of 90 year old expired sperm.
He has a really strong jawline and cheekbones and yeah, at some angles still photos look odd. When you see him in motion, I agree, huge difference.
And that hair of his needs its own agent at this point. It's pretty hilarious how much attention it gets.
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