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Post by incognito on Dec 19, 2008 11:13:20 GMT -4
I really hate recasts - especially since they knew Jacob was supposed to be 6'7" according to the book. Why cast such a short, young guy in the first place? I don't know why it's so necessary to have Jacob be so dang tall, when he fursplodes into five times his size anyway. Human Jacob could theoretically be 5'8" as long as his cyber counterpart is a humongous beast, non? I do wonder about the stupidity of the Forks population if they thought the 30 ft. tall creatures were just "really big wolves." Of course, they don't seem to notice much in them thar parts. Exactly! That's my take on it as well. I really doubt people are going to be complaining if the werewolves aren't 30 feet tall (okay...maybe they will), so why do we HAVE to have a 6'7" Jacob? Stephenie's werewolf descriptions are so patently ridiculous anyway -- Summit shouldn't go by them. The only somewhat compelling reason that I can see for recasting Jacob is because Jacob is a hyooge part of New Moon. He pretty much has to carry the movie along with Bella*, and the two have to have that "friends, but are we more than friends" chemistry. Taylor and Kristen had good platonic chemistry, but I can't see those two being romantically linked. But then again, Taylor didn't exactly have a lot to do in the first movie. I don't know if he can carry a whole movie, but I also have strong doubts about Copon. * Of course, I'm sure Summit is going to expand Edward's role in New Moon, so this might not be a huge concern.
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Post by Mutagen on Dec 19, 2008 12:06:46 GMT -4
I haven't read any of the books and I was kind of drunk when I saw Twilight, so this opinion is worth less than a hill of beans, but I thought the guy who played Jacob was reasonably good, no better or worse than the actress who played Bella. I believed their friendship. But I defer to the people who are actually familiar with the series.
Gak. Really? Because Rpattz seemed like the best part. Not just because he's cute and sparkly either.
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Post by bitca on Dec 19, 2008 12:56:55 GMT -4
* Of course, I'm sure Summit is going to expand Edward's role in New Moon, so this might not be a huge concern. Well, if they cut out all of Bella's whining, grasping her chest/stomach so she can breathe/insides stay together, they could cut about 300 pages from the middle. I'm just sayin'. Shoot. I totally believed that Jacob could have a huge crush on Bella, based on the 2.5 seconds the guy was on screen. I think it's because he's younger (like in the book) and his mannerisms. Sometimes he'd kind of look down shyly, or whatever. I could totally see Bella falling for that, especially since he helped her pick up the pieces after her ZOMG!ONETRULUV! Edward left. Then again, I also thought it was effing stupid to put Kristen Stewart in brown contacts, just because she was a Mary Stu that couldn't have green eyes... unlike SMeyer. So, clearly, I'm not a "MUST DO BY THE BOOK!!" fan. (Wow, that was REALLY poorly worded.) He was gross in Eclipse, though, and by the time the whole Nessie debacle went down I hated everybody. Amen, sista. Huh. I actually don't really remember what happened in Eclipse. (Thankfully?)
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Post by scarlet on Dec 19, 2008 13:04:40 GMT -4
They could make the middle section 15 minutes of screentime and I'd still be checking my watch wondering when it was going to be done.
I also found SMeyer's arguments of "Bella fell in love with Jacob in New Moon" to be more of her telling me that than her showing me that in the book. Jacob seemed like such a placeholder for her and nothing more.
I don't know, I was just indifferent to him in "New Moon"--though by the time "Eclipse" was done I just wanted the character to DIAF.
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Post by incognito on Dec 19, 2008 13:11:19 GMT -4
In Eclipse, Jacob (spoilered for people who want to watch the movies without reading the books) sexually assaults Bella when he forcefully kisses her. And then, when Bella punches him for doing that, she breaks her hand. Jacob the Furry Douche is completely unapologetic and says that she should have known better [than to punch him]. To make matters worse, when the two go back to Bella's house, Jacob laughingly tells Charlie what happened. You'd think a dad would be concerned about his daughter getting molested, but nooo...Charlie's attitude is basically, 'Attaboy.' Oh, and in the final scenes of Eclipse, Jacob manipulates Bella into kissing him again by threatening to go off and get himself killed. So yes, Jacob definitely veers off into Asshole Territory. He and Edward can keep each other company.
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Post by bitca on Dec 19, 2008 13:11:38 GMT -4
I'd also like to say, poor RPattz. He should have been able to smile more in Twilight. He had the "crooked smile!!!11" in the books, why couldn't he have been a little happier to balance out the pissiness? (I mean, considering all he's said about the character, that would have fit right in there.)
OK. I hate everyone, except for the actors - they couldn't help it, again.
Oh, right. No wonder I blocked that out. Thanks, incognito.
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Post by scarlet on Dec 19, 2008 13:15:51 GMT -4
If for no other reason than he just looks so damned pretty when he does.
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Post by bitca on Dec 19, 2008 17:12:51 GMT -4
I never thought dude was hot/pretty/whatever until I saw him in interviews. He's so damned uncomfortable and adorable.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2008 19:28:28 GMT -4
Well, if they cut out all of Bella's whining, grasping her chest/stomach so she can breathe/insides stay together, they could cut about 300 pages from the middle. I'm just sayin'. Ugh I HATED this part in New Moon. We get it Smeyer... she’s in physical pain because Edward left her... Can you not beat it into our heads every other page. That's one problem with all the Twilight books... the repetitiveness of words and themes like the hole in her chest.
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Post by angelaudie on Dec 20, 2008 0:30:53 GMT -4
J14 has an interview with Michael Copon about possibly taking over the Jacob role. Ugh, just let Lautner keep the role. This dude sounds like a douche.
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