Lady Gaga

[Ginger]

Mar 21, 2005 11:05:04 GMT -4 jynni said:

No need for moral grandstanding. All they were saying is that most people immediately imagine what they would do or how they would feel if someone tried to steal their own pet.

First and foremost, what comes to mind for me is what if my brother or a close friend were shot four times. I have a family member who was the victim of a brutal, random crime similar to this. He survived, but the consequences of that attack were horrific and dominated his life for a good three or four years afterward. If it were for the sake of someone stealing a ridiculously overpriced designer dog, it would be particularly senseless.

Mar 21, 2005 11:05:04 GMT -4 jynni said:

I can't imagine any loving home is buying an adult French bulldog on the blackmarket.

There are a lot of stories out right now answering the why's behind the French Bulldog black market, such as this one in People: "The motive is resale." When the market rate for the breed is between $3000 and $10000, passing yourself off as a home breeder and selling an unpapered dog at a cut rate can be incredibly profitable.

If I thought the dogs were being sold for fighting or experimentation I would be extra concerned, but this is about French Bulldogs being a very popular product that a lot of regular people want but can't afford at full price.

Jul 22, 2005 14:11:31 GMT -4 memememe76 said:

If someone kidnapped my actual children and a babysitter was harmed in the process, I would put up a ransom for my children, no questions asked.

I will never co-sign an equivalence of pets to human children. I love my pets, but it's nowhere near the same. And I'm saying that as someone who doesn't even have kids.

[memememe76]

I am not equating the two. I guess I am confused why someone should want their pets back, but with questions asked.

[Ginger]

I have assumed that the no-questions-asked reward is a ploy to catch the criminals. The dogs are now worth $500,000. That's a big enough incentive for the criminals to try to find someone willing to pretend they found the dogs and split the reward.

I don't think the police investigating this are going to go along with not asking questions, especially if they think it rises to the level of organized crime.

[kostgard]

I was wondering if she was targeted or if it was random. But stealing Frenchies is a thing? So hard to tell at this point, I guess.

[discoprincess]

Feb 26, 2021 3:50:01 GMT -4 kostgard said:

But stealing Frenchies is a thing?

Side note: I'm in NYC. According to the law, you are not allowed to bring your pet with you into a grocery store, restaurant (essentially any place that deals with food) unless it is a working animal (e.g. a seeing-eye dog). I've seen some people in my local Facebook group mention that sometimes dogs will be stolen if they are tied up outside a store while the owner is shopping.

That is crazy. I love, love, love dogs, but I wouldn't dare try to make off with someone else's pup while the owner wasn't looking. On the other hand, shooting someone to steal a dog is absolutely bonkers.

[royalwave]

It's amazing to me that these dogs are worth so much or are so desirable. I think Frenchies are one of the uglier breeds of dog.

There is video of this attack and Ryan Fischer really went above and beyond in his attempt to protect the dogs. Apparently you need secret-service like training to be a celebrity dog walker these days. Supposedly he was just a few months from wrapping up his gig with Gaga too and working to pursue his career as an artist.

[americanchai]

In my area, there were a bunch of French bulldog swipings right around Christmas. They were being stolen from yards and even houses were broken into and the only thing taken was the dog. They are popular Christmas gifts. All of the owners also offered large rewards and just wanted their pups back. I would do the same for my mutt.

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Adopt, don't shop. There are tons of dogs and cats in shelters who need homes, and it's better for you because you won't be out $$$, your pet probably won't have the health problems associated with purebreds, and now apparently you run the risk of getting shot if you're out walking your designer dog.

No offense to anyone who gets their pets from breeders, but as a lifelong believer in shelter pets, this just seems like the saddest and most absurd situation ever. To think of how many dogs were put down in shelters while there are literal organized and violent crime rings out there for dognapping "fancy" animals.

[Ginger]

I saw a surveillance video recently of a Door Dash driver who reached down and swiped the family puppy out from just behind the open door right before she left. She was really quick and quiet about it. Small dogs can be easy to steal and apparently some people are psycho.

[Ladybug]

Mar 13, 2005 12:45:42 GMT -4 Ginger said:

I will never co-sign an equivalence of pets to human children. I love my pets, but it's nowhere near the same. And I'm saying that as someone who doesn't even have kids.

This. I bristle when people equate pet ownership with parenthood. I've had some wonderful pets that I've loved dearly and I take good care of them but it's not parenting.

Oct 24, 2019 13:25:06 GMT -4 royalwave said:

There is video of this attack and Ryan Fischer really went above and beyond in his attempt to protect the dogs.

Thanks for actually using his name and not "dog walker."

Nov 27, 2005 19:05:07 GMT -4 @ximena said:

Adopt, don't shop. There are tons of dogs and cats in shelters who need homes, and it's better for you because you won't be out $$$, your pet probably won't have the health problems associated with purebreds, and now apparently you run the risk of getting shot if you're out walking your designer dog.

Thanks to the pandemic, the shelters are emptying out quickly. I thought about adopting a dog around the holidays but the breed rescue groups I looked into said they had no animals to adopt. That's good news. And unfortunately, adopting a mixed breed doesn't always equal a healthy or well-adjusted pet. I know so many people who've adopted shelter animals who have loads of behavior issues and health problems.