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Post by twodollars on Feb 21, 2010 1:56:54 GMT -4
I'm starting to get really sick of The Weinsteins and James Cameron stating that Oscar voters should give the Best Director Oscar to Bigelow and give the Best Picture Oscar to IB or Avatar. It is so condescending. Give the little award to the woman, but save the big award for the men.
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Post by huggingotters on Feb 21, 2010 12:33:58 GMT -4
I'm starting to get really sick of The Weinsteins and James Cameron stating that Oscar voters should give the Best Director Oscar to Bigelow and give the Best Picture Oscar to IB or Avatar. It is so condescending. Give the little award to the woman, but save the big award for the men. I don't think they're condescending. I think they're trying to save one of the big awards for themselves. Best director is not a little award. It's one of the biggest of the night and most of the time the best director and best picture come from the same movie. I think they're seeing what's inevitable about Kathryn Bigelow's win for best director and just trying to save their hopes for best picture. So, not condescending in this case just self preserving (might be wrong word choice).
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Post by Augustus on Feb 21, 2010 19:20:30 GMT -4
At the BAFTA's The Hurt Locker swept the board with 6 wins, not Avatar. Including winning Best Film, Director and Best Screenplay.
Avatar only went home with Best Special Effects and Production Design.
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Post by huntergrayson on Feb 23, 2010 13:57:11 GMT -4
And now the Oscars are officially turning into the teen choice awards as Lautner, Kristen Stewart, Zac Efron and Miley Cyrus are presenting - look, I get that Disney wants to pimp out its stars via the ABC branch but none of them have right to be there. It's the Oscars, okay, you don't need this desperate bid for a tween audience.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2010 14:48:03 GMT -4
And now the Oscars are officially turning into the teen choice awards as Lautner, Kristen Stewart, Zac Efron and Miley Cyrus are presenting - look, I get that Disney wants to pimp out its stars via the ABC branch but none of them have right to be there. It's the Oscars, okay, you don't need this desperate bid for a tween audience. Actually, yes they do need this desperate bid. The Oscars telecast ratings have been steadily dropping like a rock for years. If they don't get younger viewers in the habit of watching the show, they'll probably never build their ratings back up again. Most of us geezers got into the Oscar habit when we were kids or teens. Nowadays, that demographic watches the Teen Choice awards and the MTV awards to get their red carpet and acceptance speech fix. Also, the Oscars have always rewarded box office winners with presenting spots. They might be young but Miley, Zac, Abs Lautner, and Kristen Sourpuss brought in huge box office in the past few years. To the younger audience that's going to keep Hollywood afloat, Kristen is a star while Jessica Lange is that old lady their grandpa has a crush on. Chris Rock made the point well when he hosted: the Oscars are going to die if they only focus on movies no one has seen and "stars" who only interest the art house, over 35 crowd.
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Post by divasahm on Feb 23, 2010 14:48:10 GMT -4
I'll give 'em Zac Efron, who starred in a critically acclaimed grown-up movie last year, but the rest of them? No.
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Post by WitchyPoo on Feb 23, 2010 15:42:30 GMT -4
I started watching the Oscars with my mom when I was very young. Yes, it was fun to see the hot movie stars of that time but I also appreciated the older actors that I recognized from the movies my mom watched when she was a kid. Olivia De Havilland, David Niven, Deborah Kerr. The Oscars were always the show to watch. It's so unfortunate that it ends up being at the tail end of awards season and now they have to pimp out the show to stay alive. Sucks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2010 15:51:48 GMT -4
I liked seeing the older stars, too, but looking back on it, I must have made my mother roll her eyes back in her head. "There's that lady from Bedknobs and Broomsticks! Oh, he was on the Flintstones! Elizabeth Taylor made movies? I thought she just got married a lot." I was excited to see Han Solo and Princess Leia.
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Post by neeley on Feb 23, 2010 15:58:27 GMT -4
Between this and the move to 10 BP nominees, I'm interested to see what the ratings are this year. I wonder if fans of the Twilight/Disney set will actually tune in or just catch what/who they wanted to see on Youtube later.
Maybe it's good they cut the Original Song performances, otherwise we'd be seeing "The Weary Kind" as performed by Taylor Swift.
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Post by GoldenFleece on Feb 23, 2010 16:04:47 GMT -4
I don't know how many old Oscar clips I've seen of Raquel Welch presenting one category or another. Granted, she wasn't a teen star, but I don't think she was acting in too many artistic masterpieces back then. When they have those montages of the year in film, they show clips of popular box-office hits alongside the more critically acclaimed projects, though the focus is obviously greater on projects that were nominated. If the presenters are pulled from both sides of the filmmaking aisle, I don't have a problem with it. Some of the people who won juvenile Oscars in the past likely did so because their movies made money, more than those actors actually earning them for what would be thought of as award caliber performances. If the juvenile Oscars were still around now, there would be tons of pressure to give them to kids from Harry Potter or Twilight. Letting them be presenters seems sort of harmless in comparison.
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