And the Oscar Should Have Gone to...

[Wol]

To clarify, Moldy Tofu, I got me no problem whatsoever with Jodie F. having two Oscars. I think she's a goddess and should have fifty if she wants 'em. My issue is that Hilary Swank, an actress I like but don't see as anywhere near the kind of talent as Jodie, is also a two-time Oscar winner, and somehow that doesn't sound right to me, the same way that it doesn't sound right to me that both Ben Affleck and Paddy Chayefsky have Oscars for screenwriting. Does that make sense?

Me writes good posts most of da time. Darn written language skillz - who needs 'em!

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Two words on undeserving two-time Oscar winners: Tom Hanks.

Again, I'm in the minority on this but I thought Kate Winslet was OK but nothing spectacular in ESotSM but you'd think she was Meryl Streep in Sophie's Choice the way people were talking about her performance in the FT forums. My suspicions were confirmed after I saw Imelda Staunton in Vera Drake. She not Winslet should've been lauded more.

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Sean Penn should give his Oscar to Bill Murray but should have won for Dead Man Walking.

How could I have forgotten? The win for Nic Cage that led to his horrible slump of terrible action/ sentimental films was also the year that Sean Penn gave one of the most amazing performances ever to grace the silver screen. His work in Dead Man Walking is akin to Brando's work in Streetcar (which was unrewarded as well... hmmm).

That would have left things nice and clear for Murray to win for the role (and performance) of his lifetime in Lost In Translation.

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This is somewhat off-topic... I never stay up to see the Academy Awards because if I start, I'll get hooked and I just can't afford to stay up till 1:00 in the morning on a work night. Anyhow... I've definitely heard about Bill Murray looking disgusted when his name wasn't announced for Lost in Translation. But I didn't see it with my own eyes. Tell me, was he trying to be funny or was that an honest reaction? If it was a real reaction I'm surpised -- an old pro like him... From what people have said he truly was upset and showed it. But I keep wondering if he was hamming it up for the people seated around him. Any ideas?

[Karen]

Murray did seem honestly displeased. I'd say he was more stony cold than hamming it up. I can't remember him even faking a smile until Crystal drew attention to him after Penn exited the stage.

I still have a screencap that shows all the nominees right after the winner was announced. In a cruel way it is entertaining to see an actor who's not happy to have lost and showing it.

[fflover]

Moldy said:

I thought Bill Murray was really immature about the whole thing - I wasn't impressed at all. And it's not like he was the massive favourite - he'd won a golden globe, Sean Penn had won a golden globe, and Johnny Depp had won a SAG...so it's not like it was w/ Charlize (or Jamie Foxx this year) where there was one person everyone thought would win.

I thought Johnny Depp should have won last year - and if not him then Ben Kingsley.

Oh word. Johnny Depp did amazing in Pirates of the Caribbean. I just recently watched Lost in Translation and besides the movie boring me to tears, Bill Murray's performance was so smug and very overrated. I am the type of person that believes in the hype and was so sad for Bill Murray for not getting his Oscar because of said hype. But when I watched what I blindly thought would be the best performance of that year, I was extremely dissapointed. He played himself in that movie-a smug conceited ass. Who was boring to boot.

Sean Penn. I really didn't think he made such a stretch in his performance in Mystic River, and some of the parts he grossly overemoted. Everyone remember the scene when his daughter died?

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Thanks for the feedback on Bill Murray's reaction to not winning. Having heard about it but not seen it, I was really hoping he was trying to amuse his friends.

Yeah, I loved Johnny Depp's performance in Pirates of the Caribbean. In one review of it I read, the reviewer said Depp had basically created an entirely new character. Not taken bits and pieces, or relied on inspiration from previous famous character, but created a unique character out of whole cloth.

But you know what? He was funny, and "funny" doesn't seem to get rewarded too often by the Academy.

[Wol]

Bonsai said:

In one review of it I read, the reviewer said Depp had basically created an entirely new character. Not taken bits and pieces, or relied on inspiration from previous famous character, but created a unique character out of whole cloth.
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Johnny Depp freely admits he based the character's speech and mannerisms on Keith Richards. That's why Keith is playing his father in the sequel.

I still thought he was amazing, but disagree that this was his most original performance. Imo that's Edward Scissorhands.

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What the reviewer meant was that JD created a whole new movie character. I mean, really, can you think of a film character remotely like Jack Sparrow?

And yeah, Edward Scissorhands... Did he get nominated for anything for that? (To be on topic, heh...)

[jdkwfan4ever]

And yeah, Edward Scissorhands... Did he get nominated for anything for that?

He got nominated for a Golden Globe but I believe that was it. Pirates was Johnny's very first Oscar nomination.