Britney Spears

[royalwave]

Aug 20, 2023 14:09:15 GMT -4 ahah said:

I think it's reasonable for us to admit that if the situation had been a single and successful man such as Justin Timberlake who hired a 22 year old female trainer and then started dating her, people would be complaining that it was somewhat predatory and that he took advantage of his power and her age. Throw in the mental health issues and it's not a spot on comparison. But there's still a lot of space to leave room for the possibility that he was taken advantage of initially.

Eh, I think if it was Justin Timberlake dating a much younger trainer it would just seem par for the course. Or the girl would be assumed to be a gold digger. Society rarely bats an eye at May-December romances when the male is the older party...unless you start getting into clearly ancient territory like De Niro and Pacino in their twilight years making babies with ladies young enough in Pacino's case to be his granddaughter.

I do cut Sam Asghari some slack for being young and naive when he met Britney. Clearly he has matured some. But I also side-eye him going along with the pregnancy ruse, if that's what it was, for wading into the conflict between Britney and Kevin and their sons, and a few other things. I do think there was a part of him that saw dollar signs. I have no idea what, if anything, he was doing behind the scenes to try to actually help Britney live a more stable life, but publicly he went along with all the B.S.

[dragonflie]

I also think it speaks to some kind of honor that he didn't wait the 2 years. So, he effectively will get nothing from her as per the prenup. Not sure how that can be seen as a scam?

My guess: they started together while she was under the conservatorship. That was the only version of Britney Sam knew. Even under it she still was erratic and a bit unhinged, but it was manageable. He likely was young, excited for the opportunity, saw the benefits, etc. Well, then, she fought for her "freedom" and Sam likely thought this would be better. He had never been around totally unmedicated, unsupervised, unhinged, true Britney. In a very short time he realized the Britney he knew was not the same as the mess she has become. The first few months of "freedom" were likely fun, and crazy... he could attribute her antics to her newfound "freedom". Her conservatorship ended at the end of 2021. They got married mid 2022. That's 6 months. Now, as the dust settles and the "excitement" wanes... the crazy becomes more obvious, and harder to explain away or avoid.

I'm not saying she was totally coherent and articulate the whole time they were together. Not at all. But the full crazy is different. And, well, scary and unsafe. He noped out of there because he was truly scared... is my guess.

eta: I said this before- when they actually got married- but once again: looking at their wedding pics is just sad to me. There is NO ONE who is actually a real friend/family member to Britney there. It's Paris Hilton, Selena Gomez, Madonna, and Drew Barrymore. That is it. It doesn't look cute or fun, it looks sad and pathetic. I actually seriously side eye Drew for showing up... I don't know Gomez, and Hilton and Madonna I think are both sad losers at this point anyways.

[ahah]

Aug 22, 2023 14:33:07 GMT -4 royalwave said:

Aug 20, 2023 14:09:15 GMT -4 ahah said:

I think it's reasonable for us to admit that if the situation had been a single and successful man such as Justin Timberlake who hired a 22 year old female trainer and then started dating her, people would be complaining that it was somewhat predatory and that he took advantage of his power and her age. Throw in the mental health issues and it's not a spot on comparison. But there's still a lot of space to leave room for the possibility that he was taken advantage of initially.

Eh, I think if it was Justin Timberlake dating a much younger trainer it would just seem par for the course. Or the girl would be assumed to be a gold digger. Society rarely bats an eye at May-December romances when the male is the older party...unless you start getting into clearly ancient territory like De Niro and Pacino in their twilight years making babies with ladies young enough in Pacino's case to be his granddaughter.

I do cut Sam Asghari some slack for being young and naive when he met Britney. Clearly he has matured some. But I also side-eye him going along with the pregnancy ruse, if that's what it was, for wading into the conflict between Britney and Kevin and their sons, and a few other things. I do think there was a part of him that saw dollar signs. I have no idea what, if anything, he was doing behind the scenes to try to actually help Britney live a more stable life, but publicly he went along with all the B.S.

I didn't simply make the comment about the age difference. The fact that he was an employee of hers is essential to what I said. Even if it is a working relationship and not employer / employee, there is a history of batting an eye. Example - John Mayer and Taylor Swift.

[famvir]

On the pregnancy thing, I think it’s probably perimenopause. I was 42 when I thought I was pregnant. Hub and kids were on a trip and I was 3 weeks late. I took a pee test and it was positive. I waited hours until they got back and I could inform MrF.

A second test was neg. So there was a third and fourth test…all negative.

I was just patient enough to not tell the whole world (literally…) until I had double checked.

Brit is now hopping everyone forgot (we didn’t), but to many many women, a missed period or two along with a + on a pee strict looks pregnant to them.

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Aug 23, 2023 12:01:18 GMT -4 famvir said:

On the pregnancy thing, I think it’s probably perimenopause. I was 42 when I thought I was pregnant. Hub and kids were on a trip and I was 3 weeks late. I took a pee test and it was positive. I waited hours until they got back and I could inform MrF.

A second test was neg. So there was a third and fourth test…all negative.

I was just patient enough to not tell the whole world (literally…) until I had double checked.

Brit is now hopping everyone forgot (we didn’t), but to many many women, a missed period or two along with a + on a pee strict looks pregnant to them.

Or a chemical pregnancy (when an egg fertilizes, but it doesn't implant or doesn't develop after it implants) - i.e. "it's possible to be a 'little bit' pregnant". I had one of those between my first and second kid, and the only reason I knew is that we were trying for a second kid and I was pregnancy-testing obsessively. Home tests are able to pick up pregnancy earlier than you would even experience any symptoms - so if she had been, say, testing a lot because she was hoping to be pregnant, she could have picked up on it where otherwise she may not have ever been aware of it.

[Sunnyhorse]

Perimenopause, untreated, would certainly exacerbate erratic behavior.

I think Drew hangs in there out of empathy. She knows exactly what fame and shitty parenting can do to a psyche. Madonna and Paris, I kind of admire both of them for not dropping Britney and pretending they never knew her. Lord knows they didn’t have to remain engaged. Selena isn’t Britney’s contemporary, so I’m not understanding a possible motivation. I guess it’s possible she is trying to be kind.

Or maybe I’m just gullible and all four of them are famewhores. 😜

[dragonflie]

All good points Sunnyhorse. I suppose what stands out for me is that those ppl are the ONLY ppl at the wedding for Britney. No other friends, no family.

I also think Madonna falls firmly into fame whore territory and not kind friend. She started putting it out there (after the divorce announcement) that she would love to do another kiss stunt with Britney and the two "single girls" should be partying together on the town. Ummm- yeah- if you have eyeballs you can see how unwell Britney is- no real "friend" would do that. Madonna has fallen out of relevance and into desperation pretty firmly recently.

I don't think any of those women are actually Britney's "friends"- meaning people who genuinely care and would have her best interests at heart and work to help her if needed. And those are the only ppl that showed up to her wedding. It just says a lot.

[cremetangerine82]

Britney has (probably) alienated the family members who MAY have her best interests at heart, i.e. her brother and sister. I can see her not accepting any criticism from love and won't listen to helpful advice from Drew even if she gave it. I doesn't know what can help her at this point.

[Auroranorth]

Aug 25, 2023 19:57:12 GMT -4 cremetangerine82 said:

Britney has (probably) alienated the family members who MAY have her best interests at heart, i.e. her brother and sister. I can't see her not accepting any criticism from love and won't listen to helpful advice from Drew even if she gave it. I doesn't know what can help her at this point.

I think if anyone genuinely did try to talk to her at this point, she would blow up and blast it all over Instagram, sending all her stans to harass whoever it was. I can't blame anyone for looking at this mess and not wanting to try to wade in.

[prisma]

Who is managing her finances? Is there anyone making sure she doesn't blow through her money all at once? I just went and looked at her Instagram feed and her dancing videos are just so sad.