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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 14:30:50 GMT -4
If it were MY decision, I would've kept Sybil alive (she lived off screen anyway!) and killed off Mary instead of both Sybil and Matthew. I can't stand Mary and I think that would have kept the drama going without cutting off the show at the knees.
Without Matthew's newfangled ideas, how will they keep Downtown Abbey running? Is Tom going to step up with ideas of his own? Because Robert seems fairly stupid. And I'm not interested in watching money troubles - I want to see opulence upstairs - not arguments over debts.
Next season I'd like to see Thomas finally get some. I loved to hate him in the first season, but I've come to like the character and his story lines are always most interesting to me.
Yeah, I was wondering about Daisy's farm, too. Wonder if they'll ever readdress it.
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iClaudia
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Post by iClaudia on Jan 1, 2013 22:57:27 GMT -4
I hope Thomas's storyline ends with him leaving for the U.S. after a visit from Grandma Levinson who brings along a companion with whom Thomas develops a relationship. One of my greatest disappointments is that no one from Downton has headed over the U.S. for an extended holiday.
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Post by kostgard on Jan 8, 2013 0:54:17 GMT -4
I'm one of the lame-o Americans who waited for this to air on PBS, and I think I missed something -- did they reveal who stole Lord Grantham's dress shirts to get Thomas in trouble? Was it O'Brien? Also, how can the Granthams go from worrying that Edith is going to be an old maid to shutting down her relationship with Lord Boring of Tractor? Who cares if he's old! Someone is actually interested in marrying her and it would be better that she's off married and financially secure since her father pissed away all his wife's money by putting all his eggs in one basket. Finally, I find this much funnier than I probably should.
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Post by chonies on Jan 8, 2013 2:11:16 GMT -4
I'm one of the lame-o Americans who waited for this to air on PBS, and I think I missed something -- did they reveal who stole Lord Grantham's dress shirts to get Thomas in trouble? Was it O'Brien? Yes. It was O'Brien, and it was shown before it actually happened. From Reed's POV, it looked like O'Brien was just carrying the shirts around, and then there was the big rage-splosion, forcing Robert to wear a tuxedo. I was wondering about that, but I presumed that he was older, and crippled, and the whole thing was kind of weird--she was so relentless--that they were more concerned about Edith in general, and that Lord Boring was a symptom, rather than the problem, if that makes sense. I never quite bought that Edith was really interested in Lord Boring himself, but she herself was bored and desperate, so she was just kind of flailing.
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Post by kostgard on Jan 8, 2013 2:58:51 GMT -4
I can't tell with Edith - she has been interested in Lord Boring since season one when she was all about driving. Yeah, she was a half step away from standing outside his window with a boombox, but I wonder if she just wanted everything secured and in place before he could slip through her fingers again. Though I suppose maybe the heat was on a bit since she was the only unmarried Crawley daughter.
I'm just mostly confused by her parents' reaction. No, it isn't ideal, but he's nice to her, he's a proper gentleman (and not some Irish socialist) with plenty of money, and as Edith pointed out, since the war wiped out a lot of the young men, pickings were slim. Marrying him would guarantee that she would be secure for life (assuming Lord Tractor is better at investing than Lord Grantham), which seems the most important thing for a lady in her position. They were just so convinced in season one that she was an unappealing hag who would never find anyone that you'd think they'd be over the moon about a rich, titled gentleman showing interest in her, regardless of his age or busted flipper or how weird Edith was being about it. As long as she actually landed him, her stalking wouldn't matter that much in the end.
In other news, I found Martha a bit annoying with all her exaggerated Americanisms, but her rivalry with the Dowanger Countess is pretty entertaining. But then I could watch a spin-off that consisted solely of Violet disapproving things.
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Post by Atreides on Jan 8, 2013 20:50:47 GMT -4
I'm another lame-o who is watching the PBS broadcasts without having seen them as they aired in Britain, although I've read a couple major spoilers about Season 3. I just started watching this show over Christmas and finished the first two seasons in time for the PBS premiere. I love it! Season 2 had some WTF moments (Lord Grantham canoodling with a maid? Matthew miraculously regaining the ability to walk?) but still enjoyable. I just love stuff like wearing a tuxedo to dinner is considered a major faux-pas on this show.
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Post by tabby on Jan 9, 2013 10:35:17 GMT -4
"I'm sorry, I thought you were a waiter." The Dowager Countess is not giving in without a fight.
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Post by kostgard on Jan 14, 2013 2:25:00 GMT -4
Dammit, Edith just can't win, can she?
I felt so bad for her, because she looked so pretty and happy (and how cute was her "Good Afternoon!" when she met Lord Boring of Tractor at the altar?). Then she's just resigned herself to be a miserable spinster. Lord Boring sucks.
I want Edith to somehow go out there and kick ass. If she remains single, then I want her to be like Louisa May Alcott, who visited her married sister, and walked away saying, "Her home is very pretty, but I'd rather be a free spinster and paddle my own canoe."
Paddle your own canoe, Edith. Leave those shitheads behind and go be a Florence Nightingale or Susan B. Anthony or Louisa May Alcott who were "spinsters" but were still awesome. Or be like Coco Chanel and have your string of lovers but refuse to marry any of them.
Poor Mrs. Hughes. I don't want her to be sick. I'm tired of the Bates storyline. Just wrap it up already.
And Matthew is pretty insufferable. He wouldn't even read the letter? Mary should put her foot up his ass (even after he came around).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2013 2:33:01 GMT -4
Dammit, Edith just can't win, can she? I felt so bad for her, because she looked so pretty and happy (and how cute was her "Good Afternoon!" when she met Lord Boring of Tractor at the altar?). Then she's just resigned herself to be a miserable spinster. Lord Boring sucks. *snip* And Matthew is pretty insufferable. He wouldn't even read the letter? Mary should put her foot up his ass (even after he came around). Back in those days, in their social class, being left at the altar might very well have doomed a woman like Edith to spinsterhood. She's already dealing with a depleted pool of marriageable men and being cast off by a Lord? Social death. When Grantham offered to go sharesies on Downtown, Matthew made this "oh no, I couldn't possibly" sort of noise and I almost threw the remote at my TV. Stop falling on your sword, your noble dumbass. "I shan't take the money. I shan't read the letter. Now that you've read the letter, I shan't believe what's in it. Now that you've proven what's in it, I still shan't take the money." Get bent, Matthew. Really. Did he think Lord Grantham was keeping him around for his sallow looks and dull conversation? You're there to keep the money heap going, stupid. Contribute or climb off of Lady Mary and go marry some barmaid or seamstress or some other victim you can bore with your high principles. Fuuuuuuhhhhh, I hate Matthew. Can we raise the Titanic and sink it again with him on it?
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Post by bklynred on Jan 14, 2013 11:05:55 GMT -4
Haha! Matthew sounded ludicrous about the money. We get it, you're highly principled, no one cares, save the f*cking estate and staff.
They continue to screw Edith (and apparently no one else will). She's so earnest and know she's not considered the prettiest and wtf? Left at the altar. I felt awful for her. She always looks so hopeful.
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