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Post by Ladybug on Jan 28, 2013 10:38:19 GMT -4
I was spoilered about Sybill, but I sobbed like a baby anyway. All of the acting was really well done, especially by Allen Leech and Elizabeth McGovern. It was brutal. Robert was such an ass, ignoring medical advice. He took Sir Philip's advice over Dr. Clarkson's because of the guy having a title. Dr. Clarkson was just some town flunkie, but oh, SIR PHILIP, he's one of us, he knows what to do! The reaction of the staff was perfectly done. They really had watched Sybill grow up, she was nice to them, she worked alongside them at times. It was sad, but they really gave the character a nice send off.
Right after Sybill died, the local PBS station inserted a chyron asking for donations! WTF!? Right after the brutal death of a beloved character, they ask for money. I was crying and laughing at the same time.
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Post by Sunnyhorse on Jan 28, 2013 11:17:17 GMT -4
Jessica Brown Finlay really sold those last couple of scenes -- the one in which she's trying to discuss the future with Tom and the one where she's in her death throes. Knowing what was coming really ratcheted up the tension for me, and she didn't disappoint. Maggie Smith and Jim Carter, talking in the entry after the death (and Smith as slowly she made her way on into the house), were awesome as well.
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Post by bklynred on Jan 28, 2013 11:44:04 GMT -4
I couldn't handle rewatching that episode, but tracking Patton Oswalt on twitter was pretty entertaining. He was not amused.
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Post by chonies on Jan 28, 2013 11:47:57 GMT -4
It just occurred to me--I know Isobel wouldn't really have had any business being at Downton, but I wonder if her medical knowledge would have changed things or just made everything worse--I don't know if she would have said anything different from what Cora pleaded.
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Post by Ladybug on Jan 28, 2013 12:02:32 GMT -4
It just occurred to me--I know Isobel wouldn't really have had any business being at Downton, but I wonder if her medical knowledge would have changed things or just made everything worse--I don't know if she would have said anything different from what Cora pleaded. I was thinking this as well. She would not have stood for the men ignoring Clarkson's advice.
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Post by chonies on Jan 28, 2013 12:05:18 GMT -4
Interesting analysis from the Daily Beast about eclampsia and its portayal onscreen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 12:12:25 GMT -4
Robert is a moron and Mary's his daughter, through and through. I made a similar comment last night. Robert's really screwing the pooch left and right lately.
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Post by proper stranger on Jan 28, 2013 12:47:21 GMT -4
I was spoiled for Sybil, but it was still so painful to watch. My heart broke for Tom and Cora at her bedside. And eeevil Thomas' tears killed me, too.
Robert is even more of a pompous dumbass than I thought. I wondered, too, if anything would've been different had Isobel been there.
I purposely paused the show on my DVR at the beginning and waited 10 minutes to start watching, just so I could fast-forward through the Bates/Anna/Prison bullcrap.
My station did that, too. Annoying.
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Post by kostgard on Jan 28, 2013 12:49:45 GMT -4
I think Robert has basically been screwing the pooch ever since he tried to screw the maid. I think the conversation over Sybil's body went something like this: Edith: Oh, Mary, do you think we might get along a little better in the future? Mary: I doubt it, but since this is the last time we three shall all be together in this life, let’s love each other now, as sisters should. And Mary's "no" was more pragmatic, like, "this won't change anything, realistically." I don't think Edith was asking, more speculating. I get Mary was being pragmatic/realistic, but...why? Why do they have to continue to treat each other like shit? Why couldn't the death of their baby sister make Mary consider appreciating the family she still has? Or at least try, even if she doesn't believe she can't treat Edith as anything other than something she found on the bottom of her shoe? Well, that part may be genetic since the whole family (with the exception of Matthew and sometimes Violet) treats Edith like something they found on the bottom of their shoe. As others have pointed out, their rivalry doesn't make sense anymore. Before they were both single gals on the prowl (if you will) and it made sense that they were competitive. But the thing with Pamuk (which was really done in revenge for other stuff Mary had done while enjoying her position as favorite daughter) didn't hurt Mary at all. She's married, and married to the man she wanted (though you'd never know that now to look at them). She and her heirs will inherit the fortune. She's set for life and other than a baby, she has everything a woman in her position in that era would want. She won. Edith, on the other hand, has suffered the humiliation of being left at the altar and her family pissing all over everything she does, and has now resigned herself to the life of a spinster. Yet Mary is still convinced that she must go on treating Edith like poo, because...force of habit? She already resents her for being the spinster sister she's going to have to support? This is why I wish Edith would take the money that would have been her dowry (she would have a dowry, right?), take off in one of the cars no one else in the family has bothered to learn to drive and flip her sister (and the rest of them) the double bird as she speeds out of the driveway. Then she takes off to America and live with Shirley MacLaine and start a new life where people won't treat her like crap just because it's the local pastime. Please tell me we are close to the end of this Bates crap. I too don't understand at all why his cellmate and guard are out to get him, and at this point, I don't care. Save Anna!
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Post by Ladybug on Jan 28, 2013 13:14:06 GMT -4
Does anyone know if the US season 3 will include the Christmas special that aired in the UK?
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