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Post by kostgard on Sept 24, 2014 14:06:42 GMT -4
Not in the US yet. I think it starts here in January or February
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Post by kostgard on Sept 29, 2014 9:33:14 GMT -4
Oh, Carson. Suddenly so worried about being in disagreement with Mrs. Hughes when you guys disagree all the time and the thing you are disagreeing on is pretty trivial. You totally want to get with that, so get to it.
Poor Anna. I wish she had gone back to the shop and bought a baker's dozen of whatever birth control method Mary made her buy. First she was so nervous, then she got all slut-shamed even though she's married.
Thomas continues to confound. I felt bad for him because he lost his friend (who basically told him, "Dude, you really need a boyfriend"), but his menacing of Baxter is beyond pointless. He clearly likes Anna, and she's always kind to him, but he will clearly go after her hubby at the first opportunity.
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Post by iClaudia on Nov 9, 2014 22:45:07 GMT -4
With the exception of the ridiculous Greene murder mystery storyline, this may have been the most satisfying episode of the past 2 seasons.
The end of Mary's horrid love triangle/quadrangle story has vastly improved her characterization. She's season 1/season 2 Mary again - obviously bored by the expectations of her position, but deeply connected to the people and relationships that come part and parcel with being "Lady Mary". Exasperated with Edith, and sure to get her digs in, but not unnecessarily and spitefully cruel.
The relationship between Robert and Edith has been one of the great disappointments of the entire series. This episode showed how much potential they had as a core relationship. That horrible scene in season 2 with Robert expressing revulsion at having Edith as a nurse runs counter to most of what we've seen of their relationship. It would have been far more interesting if Edith was his favorite. Not only would that have allowed us to see a deep Robert/Edith relationship, Edith and Mary's rivalry would have made much more sense in that context. I'm glad Robert isn't totally clueless about Marigold. Both Marigold and Edith deserve his unconditional love and support.
Thomas vs. Denker is far more interesting than anything they tried to do with him and Edna and Baxter. They should have brought her on as O'Brien's replacement. She's shrewd and perceptive, but yet a complete wild card. The show needed much more humor in the last 2 seasons and she could have provided it. Thomas also seems to be more of himself than he has been lately.
Mary and Carson were lovely, as always. Another relationship that was wasted by the nonsense of the love triangle.
Rose has really come into her own. It's a shame that they didn't start her on this trajectory during season 4. I like that she now has the upper hand over her mother, who is probably the most miserable character of any that's been a part of the series. It was good to find out that O'Brien moved on to greener pastures.
I felt terrible for Mrs. Patmore. Lesley Nicol did an excellent job showing her pain in the instant that Daisy made her announcement. As annoying as much of the post-William's death angst was, Mrs. Patmore and Daisy have one of the strongest and most loving relationships on the show. Maybe Mrs. Patmore can join Daisy in London or at the farm after she retires.
I'm not sure if this is the last season. I think it should be and, if it is, I'll be happy to see Tom move to the U.S. and forge a new life for himself. And Mary, whatever her disappointment, would benefit from losing him. She's meant to live the life of the successful, happy, unencumbered widow of which she once expressed envy. Edith's situation is still frustratingly murky. I really want her to have a happy ending but I'm not sure how that will come to be. Maybe Gregson isn't dead afterall and they can "adopt" their own daughter, and ride off into the sunset building a publishing empire.
The murder "mystery" is just tiresome. We know Anna didn't do it. They can't erase what they wrote last year so I just can't be bothered. There's no mystery anymore. Now that Bates is in the clear, it can only be one of the other women Greene assaulted. I am actually looking forward to the Christmas special so I hope it's not 90% the Anna/Green business. I want to see Isobel's wedding.
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Post by kostgard on Nov 10, 2014 2:03:34 GMT -4
This was probably the kindest Robert has ever been, what with what he did for Mrs. Patmore and accepting that Edith has a child without blowing a blood vessel.
Mary, on the other hand, can piss right off. I'm really sick of her shit in regards to Edith. I don't understand why she must be awful to her, always. It isn't like she gains anything by it (it's not like if she doesn't keep beating Edith back she'll beat her at life or something), so she must just get off on bullying her sister. It wasn't so bad this episode because Edith basically rolled her eyes at her, but she was fucking awful to Edith when she found out that Gregson was dead. Edith dares to mourn her dead lover and Mary rolls her eyes, tells her (in front of guests) that she ruins everything by simply being Edith and cuts her hair and tries to steal the attention back to herself. Did Mary not mope around for months on end after the death of her significant other, yet Edith can't get one damn day?
I just someone would call Mary on her shit and her need to be the queen bee at all times. Violet gently does it from time to time, but no one else does. And she had two suitors this season who are both apparently off the table. They've already cast another dude to show up and fall all over her. It's all just...tiresome. And I used to like Mary.
Edith did have a good episode, which must mean that everything will turn to shit for her in the Christmas special. Just like the sun must always shine out of Mary's ass, Mary must also never direct those warming rays on Edith, so Edith should be back to pounding sand in no time.
Both Tom and Daisy have talked about leaving and moving on for at least two seasons now. It's time to shit or get off the pot, kids. I would miss Tom, Daisy I could take or leave.
I couldn't give less of a shit about the Bateses if I tried. Just throw them both in jail and forget about them. Sidenote - did anyone else find it weird that Bates went to the memorial dedication right after his wife was hauled off to the pokey? You'd think he'd be down there with her or trying to get her out, war veteran or no. But...who gives a shit ultimately.
And with Anna in jail, Fellowes is really and truly out of ideas. He just keeps recycling the same things over and over again. God how I wish he'd hire a damn writing staff.
Random thoughts:
- I wish Violet would take the Russian dude on as a lover. That would really make a Robert burst a blood vessel. - I really like Atticus' mom. Rose's mom, on the other hand, sucks donkey balls. - I hope Isobel doesn't call off the wedding to Lord Merton only because his sons suck. I want her to torment them. - I wish Fellowes would figure out how to write Thomas. If he's going to be evil, it needs to have a purpose. If he's not, then develop it properly and don't just drop it for no reason. I also REALLY hope that he has no romantic interest in the new dude, because otherwise referring to himself as "Uncle Thomas" becomes all sorts of creepy.
ETA: It's not the last season - it's just been renewed for a sixth season.
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Post by chonies on Jan 4, 2015 23:38:36 GMT -4
Started tonight in the US. My main thoughts: Sarah's not wrong, but she is kind of an asshole at every possible opportunity, although she seemed genuine when she met the downstairs people. Edith is kind of a terrible person and I don't care if she's bummed out. I understand that Mary is Magical, but I wish more would be done to emphasize her role in bringing the Abbey into the 20th century. I'm sure I'm missing something, but also Rose and the Bateses can just find another show. ETA: I rewatched and realized Edith didn't start the fire on purpose, like I thought. But I like my version better.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 10:55:45 GMT -4
This was probably the kindest Robert has ever been, what with what he did for Mrs. Patmore and accepting that Edith has a child without blowing a blood vessel. This must have been the first time in the show's run that Robert figured out two things on his own and didn't act like an ass about them. Of course, he was once again awful towards his wife and got away with it. I so wish Cora had begun an affair with that art dealer. I agree but I was thinking that this is how Mary used to be before things between her and Matthew got serious. And when they were together, she was definitely softer. Now that he's dead, she's gone back to her Queen Bee persona. The only times she was tolerable this season, were when she was with Tom, who brings out the best in all the Crawleys. I really hope that the teacher is gone forever. What an unpleasant character. The only thing he seemed to like about her was...that she reminded him of his old views? I don't know. There was just nothing there. And I hated how Daisy tried to bully him into taking her back. Sadly, we never saw how great she was with Daisy. We only saw her rudeness toward the Crawleys.
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Post by chonies on Jan 27, 2015 11:05:38 GMT -4
I thought the character had a lot of potential, but Miss Bunting as written (or perhaps played?) came off as such a sockpuppet/exposition type, and rather than afflicting the comfortable, she just irritated everyone.
I personally love Queen Mary, Biatch Regnant, and I think it's a great, organic mix of Mary's natural personality and the life lessons she's learned along the way. I want to like Edith, but I would like her more if she just ran off and did her thing and accepted the consequences. I think her fear is off-putting, but very understandable, of course.
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Post by Shalamar on Jan 27, 2015 11:46:12 GMT -4
Did I miss something? When did Robert figure out that Edith had had a baby?
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Post by Sunnyhorse on Jan 27, 2015 12:01:44 GMT -4
I am frustrated with what Fellowes has done with Edith's character, though--it's like having to read the Book of Job: "What fresh indignation/heartbreak can we heap on Edith this week?" If you were to give her a love interest and a life, maybe she wouldn't be so much of an unrealistically awful pill.
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