Tom Hiddleston

[Mutagen]

And not that they always need to be compared, but I feel like Cumberbatch went through some similar stumbles (like the Wikileaks movie flopping, or the way people went in on him for the "posh-bashing" comments). But he seems to have a much better grasp of when it's time to STFU and move on.

[technicolor]

It's all just so awkward. And so unnecessary. He's got a good career on paper, perhaps not the career he wants and that's why he's been dancing extra hard the last year or so, but a good career nevertheless. The other two posh awkward dudes in Hollywood, Redmayne and Cumberbatch, often enough enter the discussion when it comes to Hiddleston's PR misadventures and I think there's something to it. They got themselves lead roles in successful franchise movies and they seem to be getting the sort of roles and critical and/or awards response that Hiddleston is aiming for. If Hiddleston wants a more high profile career like that, the last year may have been a push for that. It's just so clumsily done and unfortunate. He's a fine actor, that Night Manager thing was a decent project that was totally overshadowed by all his antics. Now no one is talking about his work as an actor at all. Cringe.

[Ginger]

I believe that Redmayne's success drives Hiddleston crazy. They went to Eton & Cambridge together, Eddie was a year younger, and his career was already taking off before he even got out of college. Hiddles has even said that he saw Eddie making movies with Matt Damon and Julianne Moore while he was an unemployed drama school graduate and wondered why it wasn't happening for him. (Eddie didn't even go to drama school.) And that just shows how overly ambitious Hiddleston always was because he pretty quickly established a good career in the West End and on British TV and was steadily progressing.

The Taylor Swift relationship was a pretty obvious attempt to jump to the A-list and he would have been much better off continuing to do what he was doing and having a little patience.

[Mutagen]

Well I guess the one thing I'll say in Hiddleston's defense is that Eddie Redmayne's success drives me a little crazy too

[Alexis Machine]

I used to think of Cumberbatch as "The Alien", Redmayne as "British Alfalfa", and Hiddlestone was "The Other One" or didn't make an impression at all. Now I just think of him as "The Exasperator," so maybe that's an improvement?

[prisma]

I knew of Tom more from interviews than from any of the work he'd done and found him utterly charming. I would have been happy for him to achieve high-profile success. But the thing with Taylor torpedoed that. No one roots for an obvious social climber.

It's interesting what's happened to him. I can't think of a man who's been subject to this kind of shaming. Usually it's reserved for women. At least Taylor seems to recognize that the public isn't ready for her full-time return just yet.

[Babycakes]

Feb 9, 2017 12:34:27 GMT -4 Mutagen said:

Well I guess the one thing I'll say in Hiddleston's defense is that Eddie Redmayne's success drives me a little crazy too

Is he all that successful though? I guess on paper he's successful, but he's not that popular. Yeah, I know he has an Oscar and the major franchise with the continuation of the Potter series, BUT he is definitely not a household name, an action figure, a world wide phenom, or the subject of tumblr worship (to my knowledge). Redmayne seems to be pretty off the radar from what I've seen.

Loki was/is huge. He's the bigger draw in the Thor series. He stole the show from the titular character. Not to mention his role in the first Avengers. That's pretty damn impressive. If Tom had mitigated his thirst, he could have been sitting pretty, instead of looking so weak, and desperate to be liked like he does now.

[Auroranorth]

Oh, that interview! I swear the author must have memorized Plum Sykes takedown of Gwyneth and been looking for her shot. And man, did he give her ammunition. Even if she hadn't had an angle, he would have come off like a complete doofus.

[Ginger]

Feb 9, 2017 21:19:04 GMT -4 Babycakes said:

Feb 9, 2017 12:34:27 GMT -4 Mutagen said:

Well I guess the one thing I'll say in Hiddleston's defense is that Eddie Redmayne's success drives me a little crazy too

Is he all that successful though? I guess on paper he's successful, but he's not that popular. Yeah, I know he has an Oscar and the major franchise with the continuation of the Potter series, BUT he is definitely not a household name, an action figure, a world wide phenom, or the subject of tumblr worship (to my knowledge). Redmayne seems to be pretty off the radar from what I've seen.

The thing is, being obsessed about on tumblr does not translate into anything tangible career-wise. As they say, being internet famous is not the same as being actual famous. And Hiddleston has no niche for himself in the movie industry outside of Loki, so that also doesn't really yield anything for him.

Redmayne's not all that famous either, but I do think he's in a better position being able to work a unique look and having a solid acting resume AND being under the radar. Being under the radar is a good thing. Redmayne can go on CBS Sunday Morning and promote whatever Oscar bait he's in and my 75-year-old parents will go see it and not remember a thing about him personally.

It was Hiddleston's biggest miscalculation to think that getting himself on the cover of US Weekly as Taylor Swift's latest piece was ever going to take his career anywhere but down.

[Babycakes]

Feb 9, 2017 22:02:46 GMT -4 Ginger said:

Feb 9, 2017 21:19:04 GMT -4 Babycakes said:

Is he all that successful though? I guess on paper he's successful, but he's not that popular. Yeah, I know he has an Oscar and the major franchise with the continuation of the Potter series, BUT he is definitely not a household name, an action figure, a world wide phenom, or the subject of tumblr worship (to my knowledge). Redmayne seems to be pretty off the radar from what I've seen.

The thing is, being obsessed about on tumblr does not translate into anything tangible career-wise. As they say, being internet famous is not the same as being actual famous. And Hiddleston has no niche for himself in the movie industry outside of Loki, so that also doesn't really yield anything for him.

Internet fame, and that echo chamber that is tumblr contains thousands of "passionate" (I'm trying to be kind) people that are nearly always overly invested in the object of their obsessions lives and career. Each time one of those guys like Daniel Radcliffe or Cumberbatch do theater, their stans fill up the seats and wait for them for hours to try and get a glimpse of them leaving after curtain call. These are the people that write essays in Variety's comment section. They try to level their passion into power to elevate their favorite star's career. I don't know if it has yielded any net results, but I know Cumberbatch is probably as well known for his insane stans as he is for any role he has played. Tickets sold to crazies, are still tickets sold. I think a built in fan base doesn't hurt anyones' earning potential.