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Post by Witchie on Jan 21, 2015 18:42:33 GMT -4
Falling faster than Glee ever did which is too too bad, it had such promise. When Ichabod approached Katrina at the end of the episode I really thought he was going to end their relationship. So did we all.
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Post by lea1977 on Jan 21, 2015 21:54:45 GMT -4
The producers and writers of this show piss me off, they were the ones put off by the thought of a lot of African American lead characters no one else felt the same way.
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Post by kostgard on Jan 21, 2015 22:36:15 GMT -4
This is another case where the producers/network have no idea why their show is popular, so they focus on the wrong element and keep pounding away at it while the audience runs away, and the network always has the same goddamn solution they always trot out (More episodic! People can't handle serialized entertainment! It's too complicated! Nevermind the popularity of Breaking Bad and Mad Men and Game of Thrones and other highly serialized dramas!).
Honestly, SH is completely ridiculous. But it worked last season because they kept it fun and the two leads have fantastic chemistry. But nearly everything that worked has been pissed away.
Remember how awesome the Headless Horseman was? How he had no head and couldn't talk but had hilariously expressive body language and you had batshit crazy moments like him running around with a giant gun? Well, now that headless badass has a head and all he does with it is mope and whine about the girl that got away. Now he's a bore.
And the girl he's moping about? She really ain't all that. Katrina sucks. The viewers don't care about her and they don't care about the Crane marriage. Why do they keep increasing the focus on her? They could be working towards Katrina dying or going evil, but it is taking too long, the viewers are losing interest, and pushing Abbie aside to focus on Katrina is unacceptable.
Show? Ditch Katrina. Now. Like...kill her. No one wants to watch the angst that would come with her going evil. When it comes to Katrina and the Crane marriage, no. One. Cares. Please write that down and post it where you can always see it.
Also ditch John Noble. He's great, but you never could figure out what to do with him and a middle-aged man summoning demons because mommy didn't hug him enough is not fun to watch.
Bring the "Headless" back to the horseman. If you can't do that, he needs to be ditched too.
Never separate Crane and Abbie again and crank the batshit crazy back up to 11. This needs to be "The X-Files" with a twist - Abbie and Crane against a world full of demons and other weird shit. And most of all, it needs to be fun. This show only works when it is fun. We need more of Crane navigating the 21st century and its people. Why haven't you put this man on a plane yet?
This show has lost me - I barely watched the last few episodes and I haven't seen this most recent one and don't know if I will. Not until they fix these glaring problems.
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Post by Witchie on Jan 21, 2015 23:13:34 GMT -4
This is another case where the producers/network have no idea why their show is popular, so they focus on the wrong element and keep pounding away at it while the audience runs away, and the network always has the same goddamn solution they always trot out (More episodic! People can't handle serialized entertainment! It's too complicated! Nevermind the popularity of Breaking Bad and Mad Men and Game of Thrones and other highly serialized dramas!). Honestly, SH is completely ridiculous. But it worked last season because they kept it fun and the two leads have fantastic chemistry. But nearly everything that worked has been pissed away. Remember how awesome the Headless Horseman was? How he had no head and couldn't talk but had hilariously expressive body language and you had batshit crazy moments like him running around with a giant gun? Well, now that headless badass has a head and all he does with it is mope and whine about the girl that got away. Now he's a bore. And the girl he's moping about? She really ain't all that. Katrina sucks. The viewers don't care about her and they don't care about the Crane marriage. Why do they keep increasing the focus on her? They could be working towards Katrina dying or going evil, but it is taking too long, the viewers are losing interest, and pushing Abbie aside to focus on Katrina is unacceptable. Show? Ditch Katrina. Now. Like...kill her. No one wants to watch the angst that would come with her going evil. When it comes to Katrina and the Crane marriage, no. One. Cares. Please write that down and post it where you can always see it. Also ditch John Noble. He's great, but you never could figure out what to do with him and a middle-aged man summoning demons because mommy didn't hug him enough is not fun to watch.Bring the "Headless" back to the horseman. If you can't do that, he needs to be ditched too. Never separate Crane and Abbie again and crank the batshit crazy back up to 11. This needs to be "The X-Files" with a twist - Abbie and Crane against a world full of demons and other weird shit. And most of all, it needs to be fun. This show only works when it is fun. We need more of Crane navigating the 21st century and its people. Why haven't you put this man on a plane yet? This show has lost me - I barely watched the last few episodes and I haven't seen this most recent one and don't know if I will. Not until they fix these glaring problems. All. Of. This. Follow kostgard's advice and people would return in droves, but they won't because they are stupid.
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Post by biondetta on Jan 22, 2015 6:11:10 GMT -4
I'm still enjoying the show enough to watch, but amen to everything said. I really don't understand why they messed with what was obviously working. And it does seem kind of glaringly obvious that Jenny and the Captain practically disappeared from the show, while more attention is put on completely new white characters. I like Hawley in very small doses, but really he should be an occasional character that Jenny picks up talismans and such from. He should NOT have taken over Jenny's role. Jenny was badass in the first season and she should remain that way. She and Abby are a fantastic team and the show needs to keep that emphasis. They also need to decide soon if the new captain is going to be good or bad, rather than just kind of obnoxious. And yes, kill off Katrina. No one likes her.
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Post by lea1977 on Jan 22, 2015 7:36:35 GMT -4
Someone here posted that Abraham and Katrina had more chemistry together than her and Crane, I agree, those two can become some sort of supernatural couple.
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Post by smitten on Jan 22, 2015 10:20:39 GMT -4
I have the last two episodes on my DVR, and I haven't cared enough to watch them. It's sad, I couldn't get enough of this how last year. Maybe they should have stuck to 13 episode seasons, and done everything kostgard said!
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Post by GirlyGhoul on Jan 22, 2015 10:26:11 GMT -4
Well, I liked the gory guy emerging from the floor like Hellraiser and then later out of the painting like The Ring- even as I'd already watched the moving, changing painting with a bloody razor blade on Supernatural... But what I didn't like was it used to be Abbie and Crane facing the oogy CGI entity- not Katrina and Crane with Abbie popping in at the last minute to save the day. I don't mind her saving the day, of course... I just want her there for the WHOLE adventure.
It felt like watching two different shows and I was much more interested in the Irving Show. I kind of suspected like Abbie that his reappearance has something to do with the fact that Henry (or moreover the Horseman of War) owned his soul. But now that Abbie has said it out loud, I don't want it to be true. I just want mah Irving back and back in the saddle DOING STUFF. Not just taking the backseat to the Cranes.
Jenny's scene going off to get the bullets and stopping an undead oogy along the way would have been better if she didn't speak Hawley's name every other word. ARRRRGH!!!
I would have liked the Abigail Adams: 18th Century Nancy Drew flashbacks more if it was just Crane having them. Katrina of course, can't have a flashback without wibbling over her lost friend and her lost time and making it all 'AWWWW poor, wibbly, fish out of water, Katrina and her long lost friend!' (Who she never even mentioned before now, of course!)
I get these episode off Amazon, which I stupidly order the whole season before I realized how bad this season would suck and as I was watching I noticed that the episode was over two hours long! At first I thought they had two Sleepy Hollow's back to back and I didn't have time to watch the second one. But as it turned out- it was a bonus episode of EMPIRE! Which YAY on the one hand... But BOO since I didn't have time to watch it then, it was a total V8 moment when I realized I could have been watching EMPIRE instead of Sleepy Hollow.
Except, BOO again, because even though I'm happy FOX and Amazon apparently felt generous enough to toss me this freebie... I don't like the implications of tying EMPIRE to Sleepy Hollow. Now I half expect Season Two of EMPIRE to suddenly be all about the White Wallstreet backers while Luscious and Cookie get minimal screen time... and spend their screen time name dropping the White Wallstreet backers every other scene.
Dang, I really should have watched that first if I'd known it was there. Sleepy Hollow makes me CRANKY now :-(!
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Post by Witchie on Jan 22, 2015 18:20:09 GMT -4
The B storyline was definitely more interesting to me, though everything to do with the killer was extremely creepy. Nothing else involving the A story held much interest. If I had to hear Katrina long for Abigail one more time, I would have screamed bloody murder. It was so obvious what they were attempting to do. Make us care about Katrina. See her as the woman out of time, but I just don't care. I don't. Katrina has everything right now. She has her ex-boyfriend, her husband and her son alive in this time. Yeah, her son hates her, but...maybe he doesn't. Again, who cares!
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Post by lea1977 on Jan 26, 2015 22:16:46 GMT -4
Can this show just be the Mills sisters please along with Irving and Hawley since I have now seen him without his shirt on.
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