Chris Pratt

[glitterbug]

Jul 28, 2019 22:53:27 GMT -4 lea1977 said:

I am wondering if Chris is the kind of Christian who believes that somehow God was "punishing" him by causing Jack to be born premature and have a health issues. That is why he is so hardcore now, I think if he believes that he follows God's word his next child will be born "normal".

Crystal ball alert!!

[Ridha]

I feel really sorry for this guy. He can’t seem to catch a break. He’s doesn’t appeal as such but even as someone who thinks meh, I’ve noticed he seems to get dragged a lot even when not poking his head above the parapet. I haven’t followed it too closely but over the years - and please someone correct me if I’m factually wrong on any of it - his sins include:

- He’s a Christian (and that - as any old religion - carries with it certain traditional beliefs that will inevitably clash with Woke culture) and was quietly practicing that even though - as far as I know he didn’t make any statements about any minority, he somehow… got treated as if he had? As a non-American I’m genuinely curious; on the one hand America has freedom of religion, most Liberal people there believe that Islamaphobia for instance is wrong. And that’s great. But how then does that same person square up the fact that this - as well as Christianity - have directly clashing values with them (ie the same liberals who are decrying Islamaphobia) on certain other topics? If freedom of religion is a Good, and religious discrimination is a Bad, then on what rationale did Chris Pratt get jumped on not because he himself made any anti-Trans statements but because Elliot Page decided he was Bad due to the church he attended? I mean I get the contradiction tbh with eg Scientology - and I fully and gleefully join in with the bashing of those views, but that is arguably because Scientology is a modern cult as opposed to an ancient religion. When it comes to the traditional religions, how does the average person who bashes Chris Pratt (and logically will have a liberal mindset), square up objecting to the fact that he privately does not hold liberal values due his religion, with the fact that being being religious-phobic (within their same liberal values) is also supposed to be a bad thing?

- And now bashing him for being grateful that a child is healthy? Again I get feeling hostile to John Travolta when he made a comment along the lines of (IIRC) saying he wanted his third child to be a son since they already had a beautiful daughter. That DID imply ALOT about his first son who did have developmental issues. But what Chris said? Who wouldn’t be grateful that they have a healthy child. I know as someone who barely ate or slept earlier this year when it was looking like my baby might have significant developmental delays how grateful I was when it seemed it might not be the case. That’s natural and human.

Naming his son Jack with a last name of Pratt - that’s maybe something the son could validly hold over him (and his mum) during Kindergarten haha.

Hope Jack is loving being a big brother.

[Mutagen]

He’s a Christian (and that - as any old religion - carries with it certain traditional beliefs that will inevitably clash with Woke culture) and was quietly practicing that even though - as far as I know he didn’t make any statements about any minority, he somehow… got treated as if he had? As a non-American I’m genuinely curious; on the one hand America has freedom of religion, for instance the most Liberal people there believe that Islamaphobia for instance is wrong. And that’s great. But how then does that same person square up the fact that this - as well as Christianity - have clashing values on certain other topics? If freedom of religion is a Good, and religious discrimination is a Bad, then on what rationale did Chris Pratt get jumped on not because he himself made any anti-Trans statements but because Elliot Page decided he was Bad due to the church he attended?

Elliot Page didn't come out of nowhere and decide Hillsong was "bad", and it's not "Woke Culture" for LGBTQ people to have problems with a church that declares they are "broken". Chris Pratt in particular has gone on TV talking about how great Hillsong is; so it's not just that he quietly minds his business and attends, he's also advocating for them, which IMO makes it fair game to criticize exactly what he is advocating for. If this church wants to advocate that gay people are "broken," its members and advocates don't get to whine and cry when gay people in turn think they are broken. Freedom of religion does not mean freedom from people disagreeing with your religion.

As for being critical of Christianity vs Islam. I have issues with some of the things Islam teaches too. But, and I admit this is a U.S.-centric perspective, right now it isn't the Muslims passing dystopic abortion laws in Texas or filling up Trump rallies. It's the evangelical Christians who are fueling that. (No, not *every* single evangelical Christian, and there are other religious denominations involved in passing retrograde laws, but there's a lot of Venn diagram overlap.) In majority-Muslim countries like Iran or Saudi Arabia, fundamentalist Islam likewise would be a bigger fish to fry than fundamentalist Christianity. 

Lastly, I find it so odd that we have hundreds of pages dedicated to snarking on Meghan Markle or the Kardashians (which I don't disagree with), yet Chris Pratt of all people brings out the pearl clutching.

[Millis]

For me personally, as someone who THOROUGHLY enjoys the Guardians movies, it's the combination of Hillsong PLUS the animal abuse that makes him abhorrent.

[mrspickles]

Nov 7, 2021 4:34:00 GMT -4 glitterbug said:

Jul 28, 2019 22:53:27 GMT -4 lea1977 said:

I am wondering if Chris is the kind of Christian who believes that somehow God was "punishing" him by causing Jack to be born premature and have a health issues. That is why he is so hardcore now, I think if he believes that he follows God's word his next child will be born "normal".

Crystal ball alert!!

OMG GLITTERBUG IS BACK!!!!!

[Ridha]

I do find the example of Meghan Markle and the Kardashians a false equivalency though. MM has routinely (in the opinion of some) lied, manipulated, played the race card, played the woman card, self-righteously lectured on every trendy topic, and more. Whether one dislikes Chris Pratt - or indeed MM or the Kardashians - or not, I’m not sure how there’s a parallel between their characteristics or wrongs, that doesn’t make the comparison as random as it seems. I also don’t see it as “pearl clutching” in the defence of “Chris Pratt” per se but rather over a) respect for religious beliefs, and b) empathy for the gratitude any parent may express over a healthy baby, especially one who has experienced the other side. That’s usually when it’s best for people to speak against/in support of things: when it’s about the issues rather than the specific people or their popularity.

I am still interested the contradiction I see generally (it came up recently in a news report on Muslim parents peacefully protesting their children being taught (I don’t recall the details) Trans related topics, and I thought it would be telling how the Transphobic Vs Islamaphobic (or in CP’s case the name of his religion) would play out.

If there’s animal abuse I’m fully prepared to bash him for that. Animal abusers are truly the worst of people across all belief systems and religions.

[Ginger]

Let's revisit what constitutes Pratt's "animal abuse":

1. Anna Faris adopted a chihuahua. When her son was born and turned out to be allergic, Anna Faris rehomed the chihuahua to what she thought was a responsible family. Five years later, the dog escaped the custody of its owners and was traced via chip back to its previous owner, Anna Faris. Anna Faris then returned the dog to the shelter, issued a public apology, and paid the $5k fine to the shelter for violating the adoption agreement which she, Anna Faris, had signed. It's unknown whether Pratt played any role in any of that except being married to Anna Faris.

2. Anna Faris owned a cat for many years prior to meeting Pratt. By the time she became pregnant, the cat had become very elderly and incontinent. It is a legitimate danger to pregnant women to be exposed to cat feces. Pratt asked on twitter if anybody wanted a cat. Twitter, in its usual fashion, became enraged as if rehoming a cat via social media was akin to murdering a child. Pratt replied to this ridiculousness very snarkily. The cat was successfully rehomed via a word-of-mouth private adoption.

3. Pratt is a hunter and people hate hunters.

#1 and #2 are not nearly enough, in my mind, to tag someone as an "animal abuser".

And although I don't share the hunting instinct, I feel like I am in no position to judge as I consume meat, eggs and dairy from animals born, raised and slaughtered in factories, as do the majority of people in the United States. The animals Pratt has hunted and eaten lived better lives.

Pratt now owns a ranch/sanctuary with hundreds of animals (primarily wool-producing sheep) who seem to live very nice lives and be very loved before dying natural deaths. (He has specified that they don't eat the animals.) They also adopt pigs and dairy cows which probably escapes notice because he doesn't use words/hashtags like #rescue and #endfactoryfarming. But he's doing more for animals than I am.

[magazinewhore]

On the con side: He does make shitty movies with quasi-conservative messages (The Forever War).

So there's that.

Also, he had all my love for Andy on Parks & Recs and he managed to squander that.

[ennazus]

Chris and Anna couldn’t hire someone to sift her cat’s litter and clean up after it? Many pregnant people that have cats as pets, incontinent or otherwise (cat/pregnant person), managed and are still alive to tell about it. It was sad for that old cat to lose its owners. I can understand why people would be upset about that.

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Nov 7, 2021 18:15:44 GMT -4 ennazus said:

Chris and Anna couldn’t hire someone to sift her cat’s litter and clean up after it? Many pregnant people that have cats as pets, incontinent or otherwise (cat/pregnant person), managed and are still alive to tell about it. It was sad for that old cat to lose its owners. I can understand why people would be upset about that.

Of course. But it still doesn't make the case for her being an abusive pet owner, as long as she made sure it went to a good home. Probably if she had kept it, it would have to be kept away from her due to its incontinence. So, it wouldn't be with its owner, anyway.

I'm not specifically a fan of Chris, I've seen maybe one or two movies and he didn't make much of an impression on me, so I've never followed him enough to know that much about him. (I keep meaning to watch Parks & Rec, eventually I'll get to it.) But I agree with the points ridha brought up--well thought out and thought provoking.