Everest

[Neurochick]

I want to see it, I don't want to see it, but it's in IMAX 3D so...

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[Baby Fish Mouth]

I'm a huge fan of Into Thin Air and can't wait to see this.

[Neurochick]

Sept 8, 2015 15:05:03 GMT -4 Baby Fish Mouth said:

I'm a huge fan of Into Thin Air and can't wait to see this.

I read Into Thin Air in 1999 and I'm re-reading it now.

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When I read Into Thin Air in college, my life stopped for the week it took to read it. If I had a spare minute, I was reading. It was incredibly engrossing but I admit through the book I had the recurring thought: "Why would you ever want to climb Everest? Are you not in your right mind?"

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I saw the IMAX documentary that came out in 1998, the film crew was on Everest filming a different expedition when the disaster happened. Liam Neeson narrates it and I highly recommend it, I think it's on Netflix streaming. I haven't read the book but I've always been fascinated by the story ever since it happened. I remember watching some news special (either 20/20 or Dateline) about how the doctors fixed Beck Weathers' face, it was amazing.

I am definitely seeing this movie. I'm very curious to see how a theatrical version of the story is treated, although already knowing who lives and dies will make some parts of it hard to watch.

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Oh that looks good. I remember being obsessed with Everest when this story first happened. I saw the IMAX documentary, read Into Thin Air. I even had the special photographic edition of the book. I remember I used to get irritated whenever I saw Sandy Hill Pittman in Vogue magazine after that. Its been so long though that while I remember the gist of what happened, I have forgotten most of the key players. I am surprised that it took them this long to make it into a movie. Interesting, at least according to IMDB this isn't an adaptation of Into Thin Air.

[Atreides]

Sept 8, 2015 21:24:18 GMT -4 @bronze said:

Oh that looks good. I remember being obsessed with Everest when this story first happened. I saw the IMAX documentary, read Into Thin Air. I even had the special photographic edition of the book. I remember I used to get irritated whenever I saw Sandy Hill Pittman in Vogue magazine after that. Its been so long though that while I remember the gist of what happened, I have forgotten most of the key players. I am surprised that it took them this long to make it into a movie. Interesting, at least according to IMDB this isn't an adaptation of Into Thin Air.

Yes, I believe the movie is based on the events that happened in 1996, but not on the book Into Thin Air.

I want to see this really badly, especially in IMAX. I would never climb Everest, or any dangerous mountain, but I can understand why some do it. I admire those who push the physical and mental limits of being human. I like to think that mountaineers share the drive and unquenchable curiosity that Christopher Columbus, James Cook, Neil Armstrong, Amelia Earhart, Robert Ballard, and many others have had over the course of history.

[Neurochick]

I think the only way a good version of "Into Thin Air" could be made, is if it were a miniseries on HBO.

I'm re-reading "Into Thin Air" now, I first read in in 1999. Krakauer got a lot of flak for the book, because some thought he was blaming the guides for the number of fatalities; but that's not what he said in the book. His issue was the commercialization of Everest and how everybody involved was in this weird symbiotic relationship (government/guides/clients). Sandy Hill Pittman was just a player in the whole thing, the same way Krakauer was.

[Baby Fish Mouth]

Sept 9, 2015 12:42:52 GMT -4 Neurochick said:

Krakauer got a lot of flak for the book, because some thought he was blaming the guides for the number of fatalities; but that's not what he said in the book. His issue was the commercialization of Everest and how everybody involved was in this weird symbiotic relationship (government/guides/clients).

IIRC Krakauer did put some of the blame on the guides. There was a glut of people trying to summit that day, resulting in a bottleneck at the summit. The guides failed to enforce the 2:00 pm deadline for safely getting off the summit before nightfall. I think one of the guides wasn't using bottled oxygen either, which severely hampered efforts to help his clients descend.

But it definitely goes back to the bigger problem of Everest's commercialization - too many inexperienced climbers, too much emphasis on reaching the summit no matter what, and not enough regard for safety.

[Neurochick]

Sept 9, 2015 13:05:53 GMT -4 Baby Fish Mouth said:

Sept 9, 2015 12:42:52 GMT -4 Neurochick said:

Krakauer got a lot of flak for the book, because some thought he was blaming the guides for the number of fatalities; but that's not what he said in the book. His issue was the commercialization of Everest and how everybody involved was in this weird symbiotic relationship (government/guides/clients).

IIRC Krakauer did put some of the blame on the guides. There was a glut of people trying to summit that day, resulting in a bottleneck at the summit. The guides failed to enforce the 2:00 pm deadline for safely getting off the summit before nightfall. I think one of the guides wasn't using bottled oxygen either, which severely hampered efforts to help his clients descend.

But it definitely goes back to the bigger problem of Everest's commercialization - too many inexperienced climbers, too much emphasis on reaching the summit no matter what, and not enough regard for safety.

Yes, he did put some of the blame on the guides, but I got that he was questioning the entire system. The government needs the money, so they allow for more permits on Everest, the guides also need the money because it's their business and the clients want to climb Everest, so they'll shell it out; it was 65k in 1996, I'm sure it's six figures now.

The guides were in a lose/lose situation. I've heard that some guides actually got sued for not getting their clients to the top of Everest. About 10 years ago, Discovery had a show about Everest; I remember there was one client who was totally out of shape, he smoked; but he wanted to get up there. I think the expedition leader was like, "come down," and he was PISSED off. I could see someone like him suing. Also the guides knew that if they got a very wealthy person to the top, it would make the papers and help the guide's business.

This is happening today with the whole "survival" business. Take someone like Bear Grylls, he had a show on Discovery; now he's on NBC, has a deal with Walmart and even took Obama on one of his adventures. Now there's a glut of survival shows on Discovery, NatGeo and History, people are coming on these shows to build their brands.

Back to the movie, I want to see it in 3D IMAX, I think the visuals will be awesome though I don't think 2 hours will be enough time to tell this story.