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Post by Auroranorth on Jan 8, 2018 20:30:16 GMT -4
I Best part of the doc? The way Paul Wiley was just not. Having. It. With Tonya. He hates Tonya like burning, which is not surprising. He and Nancy were training partners, they had the same coaches, and they did some pair skating together. They're still very close friends by all accounts. |
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Post by save lilo! on Jan 9, 2018 4:05:50 GMT -4
What was up with Allison Janney bringing Tonya Harding as her date and proclaiming this:
'What this movie did is tell a story about class in America, tell a story about the disenfranchised, tell the story about a woman who was not embraced for her individuality, tell a story about truth and the perception of truth in the media and truths we all tell ourselves.
'It's an extraordinary movie, and I'm so proud of it.'
Where my rolly eye emoji at?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 8:29:19 GMT -4
What was up with Allison Janney bringing Tonya Harding as her date and proclaiming this: 'What this movie did is tell a story about class in America, tell a story about the disenfranchised, tell the story about a woman who was not embraced for her individuality, tell a story about truth and the perception of truth in the media and truths we all tell ourselves. 'It's an extraordinary movie, and I'm so proud of it.' Where my rolly eye emoji at? I know. Judging by what some of the people involved in this movie have been saying in various interviews, it seems like Tonya's convinced them that she's 100% innocent. I was home sick yesterday and decided to finally watch The Price of Gold. Dear Lord, the excuses she came up with to justify her behavior was truly mind-boggling. And she had the gaul to call Nancy a crybaby when almost her entire interview for the thing was her being a crybaby about how she was wronged and how horribly she was treated. And of course none of her bad performances were her fault, oh no. And she also had the gaul to accuse Nancy of being rude and treating HER badly when they were at practice and she supposedly tried to apologize to her. Bitch, please! And after watching this I am more convinced than ever that she knew way more about the assault than she's admitted to. One of the interviewees was a woman who's known Tonya since she was 3, and she said she believed that Tonya was involved. Now Nancy's no saint, I know. But at least she doesn't have a chip on her shoulder the size of Nebraska. I hated it then and I hate it now, how some of the pro-Tonya folks portray her as a stuck-up and bitchy ice queen. The only big differences between Nancy and Tonya are that Nancy didn't have a psycho mom and that she was willing to play the image game. |
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Post by Ginger on Jan 9, 2018 15:37:03 GMT -4
I'm home sick and watching The Talk. They are talking about Tonya Harding and how she just walked out of an interview with Piers Morgan when he asked her about how she's making herself out to be the victim when the real victim was Nancy Kerrigan. (I LOL'd at the Piers Morgan interview because 23 years ago, Tonya walked out of an interview with Connie Chung for basically the same reason. And looked just as silly.) The Talk host says before we judge Tonya, let's all watch this. Then they showed the video from 1994 of Nancy Kerrigan on the parade float with Mickey Mouse griping to her mother about how corny and stupid she felt. They said the video showed that they were "both villains".  That's infuriating to me. Nancy was never a villain, and she was never a "bitch". She was a normal young woman. She went through three months of the most intense pressure someone could go through and with the press covering every single second of it. By the end of it, she was worn out and she got caught a couple of times on camera being a little snarky. That's ALL. She never did anything truly wrong. People say poor Tonya because she wasn't figure skating's idea of a Perfect Princess and that held her back (which was not actually true for the most part). And yet Nancy was condemned by the media for the same reason. At the end of The Talk's discussion, they said the movie shows that Tonya didn't know about the attack and the movie must be true. This confirms to me that most people going to see the movie are going to walk out believing Tonya's lies. |
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Post by scarlet on Jan 9, 2018 16:05:06 GMT -4
At the end of The Talk's discussion, they said the movie shows that Tonya didn't know about the attack and the movie must be true. This confirms to me that most people going to see the movie are going to walk out believing Tonya's lies. I can only speak for myself and say no, that's not what the film showed at all. If anything, it's laughably exasperating how Tonya refuses to acknowledge any blame in the entire crime. |
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Post by Ginger on Jan 9, 2018 16:10:32 GMT -4
At the end of The Talk's discussion, they said the movie shows that Tonya didn't know about the attack and the movie must be true. This confirms to me that most people going to see the movie are going to walk out believing Tonya's lies. I can only speak for myself and say no, that's not what the film showed at all. If anything, it's laughably exasperating how Tonya refuses to acknowledge any blame in the entire crime. Well, The Talk women are idiots. |
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Post by scarlet on Jan 9, 2018 16:13:07 GMT -4
I can only speak for myself and say no, that's not what the film showed at all. If anything, it's laughably exasperating how Tonya refuses to acknowledge any blame in the entire crime. Well, The Talk women are idiots. I'm not even sure which women those are (is that the one with Sara Gilbert?), but I'm going to agree on principle. |
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Post by Ginger on Jan 9, 2018 16:44:25 GMT -4
I haven't watched The Talk in years. Sheryl Underwood (an alleged comedian) has always been the worst of the bunch, although she grew on me after I heard her personal story. She was leading the idiot charge today. But Julie Chen, who I do think is intelligent, said that the movie must be true or else there would be lawsuits, which is an incredibly stupid thing to say.
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Post by kostgard on Jan 9, 2018 21:37:44 GMT -4
Lord. Tonya, at the very least, tried to cover up a crime committed against her competitor. Nancy lost her cool a couple times on camera. There is no comparison. They are not “both villains.”
And if every film/tv show that is based on real life events and bends the truth a little gets sued, then why isn’t the Queen suing the pants off The Crown (to give a recent example)?
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Post by WestEndGirl on Jan 9, 2018 22:14:06 GMT -4
I haven't seen the movie yet, but my friend and I just made plans to see it next week. We were having the same discussion about hesitating to support a film that may be glorifying/condoning Tonya Harding for her role in the attack. Like was said upthread, we decided the reviews haven't been too clear about how they're treating Tonya and the performances seem to be strong.
I saw the 30 for 30 Price of Gold, and I was obsessed with the Olympics at the time of the incident and remember it well. Even as a teenager, I remember being so frustrated at the media portrayal of Nancy Kerrigan as a brat after the Olympics. How she was griping at Oksana Baiul for crying during the medal ceremony, how she complained at Disney. How she was from a blue collar background too and wasn't this perfect princess in Vera Wang. Yeah but she (or a member of her team, etc.) didn't attack a rival with a police baton in order to bump her from competition either!
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That's infuriating to me. Nancy was never a villain, and she was never a "bitch". She was a normal young woman. She went through three months of the most intense pressure someone could go through and with the press covering every single second of it. By the end of it, she was worn out and she got caught a couple of times on camera being a little snarky. That's ALL. She never did anything truly wrong. 
