wineoclock
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Post by wineoclock on Mar 24, 2024 11:11:30 GMT -4
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Post by Ginger on Mar 24, 2024 11:34:50 GMT -4
Participating in an orgy of online bullying and conspiracy theories, and then acting like it's the fault of someone else's "PR mistakes" is disgusting. Be a decent person and admit you were wrong.
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cancan
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Post by cancan on Mar 24, 2024 11:39:58 GMT -4
The mistake these people are making is that they are looking at it through a PR lens. Catherine decided to do what was right for her family, without regard to the public perception. That is her decision and her right. I was diagnosed with cancer (and this forum was one of the first places I mentioned it) when my son was 8. The manner of when and how I decided to tell him, and what I decided to share with work and other communities, was very far subordinate to making sure that I told my son in the appropriate way. I don't care about KP's PR "mistakes" and I doubt Catherine does either. |
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Post by Ginger on Mar 24, 2024 11:51:52 GMT -4
The only mistake was the Mother's Day photo, and that was a failed attempt to calm the conspiracy theories, which were already rampant.
From the beginning, they announced the situation, laid out the anticipated timeline for recovery, and made clear what they intended to keep private and what they would share. They set very reasonable boundaries, and all they did was maintain those boundaries as Kate and her family dealt with the situation.
It's not even Easter yet. After all of this mess, Kate STILL has not been given the recovery time that she said from the start she would need, before she even knew she had cancer or would need chemo.
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Mlle
Lady in Waiting
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Post by Mlle on Mar 24, 2024 12:01:29 GMT -4
This smacks of rationalization. People trying to make themselves feel better for bullying a sick woman into revealing her cancer diagnosis. I also note that of course H&M are a mentioned in this article, and once again seen as being treated unfairly (in an article seeking to explain away why Catherine was treated poorly of all things) and that the article comes from Ellie Hall who is nothing if not a Sussex fan. All of it is gross. You bullied a sick woman, own in don't try to explain it away. Personally I don't even think that the pr was handled poorly, it was handled mostly in the usual way, with updates only when conspiracy theories got out of hand All in all: SHAMEFUL |
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wineoclock
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Post by wineoclock on Mar 24, 2024 12:11:21 GMT -4
This smacks of rationalization. People trying to make themselves feel better for bullying a sick woman into revealing her cancer diagnosis. I also note that of course H&M are a mentioned in this article, and once again seen as being treated unfairly (in an article seeking to explain away why Catherine was treated poorly of all things) and that the article comes from Ellie Hall who is nothing if not a Sussex fan. All of it is gross. You bullied a sick woman, own in don't try to explain it away. Personally I don't even think that the pr was handled poorly, it was handled mostly in the usual way, with updates only when conspiracy theories got out of hand All in all: SHAMEFUL I didn't bully anyone. I didn't participate in spreading conspiracy theories about her. Not sure why this is pointed at me. Two things can be true at once. She can be deserving of empathy and privacy, and she is also a tax-funded public figure whose communications team bungled handling a crisis by not being proactive and then lost control of the narrative and torpedoed their credibility with the Mother's Day photo. |
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Mlle
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Post by Mlle on Mar 24, 2024 12:20:29 GMT -4
This smacks of rationalization. People trying to make themselves feel better for bullying a sick woman into revealing her cancer diagnosis. I also note that of course H&M are a mentioned in this article, and once again seen as being treated unfairly (in an article seeking to explain away why Catherine was treated poorly of all things) and that the article comes from Ellie Hall who is nothing if not a Sussex fan. All of it is gross. You bullied a sick woman, own in don't try to explain it away. Personally I don't even think that the pr was handled poorly, it was handled mostly in the usual way, with updates only when conspiracy theories got out of hand All in all: SHAMEFUL I didn't bully anyone. I didn't participate in spreading conspiracy theories about her. Not sure why this is pointed at me. Two things can be true at once. She can be deserving of empathy and privacy, and she is also a tax-funded public figure whose communications team bungled handling a crisis by not being proactive and then lost control of the narrative and torpedoed their credibility with the Mother's Day photo. No, no I didn't mean you, I meant the journalist and everyone else who jumped on the stupid where is Katherine train! Sorry, it was not intended to imply you at all. |
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dragonflie
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Post by dragonflie on Mar 24, 2024 12:21:09 GMT -4
Yeah- I really hate that the excuses now are : it's the PR teams fault people were evil a$$holes that bullied a person with cancer.
I doubt William and Catherine cared about PR "advice", they were busy trying to cope with a shitload of real life problems. Now that we all know- why can't people just admit: sh%t, I made a mistake and should have actually heeded this woman's (very small) ask of letting her heal before asking to see her/be given more details of what was the issue. Even the photo: omg who the f%ck cares if there was editing. Really?? Is that a big deal?? Enough to make international news?? It's not like this was a photo of a world leader proclaiming to have evidence that bigfoot is real and JFK was killed by them (there are photos!!). This was a family posting a portrait. Who the f$ck cares of she photoshopped a misplaced hair or a smile?
And that is now used as an excuse?! "They" (pr people? KP? Will & Kate?) MADE us have to ask these questions? Really? A person tells you- MONTHS in advance- that they are taking health leave for a few months. They do that. Then a couple weeks in they are actually doing what they said! And that was a PR bungle?? Oh- no- it was that they then released a photo! And it was edited!! That's why we are justified in guessing she is dead or being beaten by her husband. Of course. (even though she literally told EVERYONE she needed time away due to a health issue). And it's Will & Kate, or their PR's fault- not the ppl making sick gossip and assumptions. The gossip spreaders are the innocent onlookers. Ok then.
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Post by lordofthefries on Mar 24, 2024 12:28:25 GMT -4
This smacks of rationalization. People trying to make themselves feel better for bullying a sick woman into revealing her cancer diagnosis. I also note that of course H&M are a mentioned in this article, and once again seen as being treated unfairly (in an article seeking to explain away why Catherine was treated poorly of all things) and that the article comes from Ellie Hall who is nothing if not a Sussex fan. All of it is gross. You bullied a sick woman, own in don't try to explain it away. Personally I don't even think that the pr was handled poorly, it was handled mostly in the usual way, with updates only when conspiracy theories got out of hand All in all: SHAMEFUL I didn't bully anyone. I didn't participate in spreading conspiracy theories about her. Not sure why this is pointed at me. Two things can be true at once. She can be deserving of empathy and privacy, and she is also a tax-funded public figure whose communications team bungled handling a crisis by not being proactive and then lost control of the narrative and torpedoed their credibility with the Mother's Day photo. It's not directed at you personally; it's directed at the general internet commentariat. By large, the people posting the "but it's the PR" articles have guilty consciences and are trying to rationalize their own behavior. As I've posted previously, teachers are taxpayer funded. NHS healthcare workers are taxpayer funded. Military members are taxpayer funded. Being taxpayer funded is not the gotcha the internet seems to think it and does not strip people of their basic dignity and rights. It is a sad commentary on the state of the gossip ecosystem that someone struggling with a serious health issue, instead of being allowed to focus on finding a diagnosis, healing, starting therapy, and managing their young family has to instead choose their actions based on controlling a narrative. I'd suggest everyone read the New Yorker's take: The Moral Plea Behind Kate Middleton's Cancer Disclosure, and for everyone perseverating on PR missteps, please do some self-examination as to why you need to be skillfully PR managed before you consider behaving like a decent person. |
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Mlle
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Post by Mlle on Mar 24, 2024 12:29:26 GMT -4
Yeah- I really hate that the excuses now are : it's the PR teams fault people were evil a$$holes that bullied a person with cancer. I doubt William and Catherine cared about PR "advice", they were busy trying to cope with a shitload of real life problems. Now that we all know- why can't people just admit: sh%t, I made a mistake and should have actually heeded this woman's (very small) ask of letting her heal before asking to see her/be given more details of what was the issue. Even the photo: omg who the f%ck cares if there was editing. Really?? Is that a big deal?? Enough to make international news?? It's not like this was a photo of a world leader proclaiming to have evidence that bigfoot is real and JFK was killed by them (there are photos!!). This was a family posting a portrait. Who the f$ck cares of she photoshopped a misplaced hair or a smile? And that is now used as an excuse?! "They" (pr people? KP? Will & Kate?) MADE us have to ask these questions? Really? A person tells you- MONTHS in advance- that they are taking health leave for a few months. They do that. Then a couple weeks in they are actually doing what they said! And that was a PR bungle?? Oh- no- it was that they then released a photo! And it was edited!! That's why we are justified in guessing she is dead or being beaten by her husband. Of course. And it's Will & Kate, or their PR's fault- not the ppl making sick gossip and assumptions. The gossip spreaders are the innocent onlookers. Ok then. I would love to be able to like this 100 x. Where are all the people owning up to their absolute assholery? Do it, we might respect you more. Just admit it, don't explain it though. |
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