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Post by Ginger on Jan 7, 2021 10:38:32 GMT -4
I don't want Trump to pardon everyone involved with yesterday. I'm very concerned about this. I would like the FBI to be raiding all of their hotel rooms right now and arresting them, but Trump will just ask for a list and issue blanket pardons to all of them. Maybe it's ok if the FBI waits. The head of the flight attendant's union said yesterday that they don't want any of these people to be able to fly anymore. I agree, they are terrorists. Unfortunately, most of them will probably be flying home today. And a lot of them caused trouble on the flights they took to DC - fighting with passengers and writing Trump slogans on the walls of the plane. A Delta flight from Salt Lake City was particularly bad.
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Post by eclair on Jan 7, 2021 10:43:42 GMT -4
He can be impeached after he leaves office, it will mean that he can never run for office again.
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Post by alpierce on Jan 7, 2021 10:45:22 GMT -4
You guys, I have to get out of lurkdom for this, because if I do not say something this morning, I am going to explode. I am officially done as a Democrat and will be registered independent. I am done trying to support this weak party. I am disgusted with Pelosi for saying that we should MOVE ON from this. How can we move on from this? This man incited a riot that resulted in 4 deaths. He had his lackeys thrash the Congress. How can he do these things and not be removed? I am a black woman. I have seen BLM protesters assaulted, shot by rubber guns, tear gassed, and arrested at a much higher level than what happened yesterday, all because they didn’t want their men and women being gunned down in there beds or jogging in the street. I have seen our first Black president and First Lady raked through the coals for putting his feet up on a desk and her having the gall of saying that children should eat healthier. And this man gets away with THIS?!? With countless other things in the past 4 years?!? This is White privilege at the most depraved and disgusting. Fuck all of them who choose to move past this. This was supposed to be a happy time today, as the Democrats have the Senate, House, and Presidency back. But you know what, fuck them too. They are weak and spineless, and they are slightly less complicit than the Republicans for what went on yesterday. I am disgusted, angry, and hurt. This is not my country and this is not my party. Holding Trump responsible will take longer (25th ammendment, or impeachment) than he has left in office. Since he is under investigation by several states, I imagine Pelosi felt no time should be wasted on something that may prove fruitless anyway, since the 25th ammendment or impeachment is no sure thing, and takes alot of time and support of other legislators on the republican side. I’ve been disappointed by the Democratic Party for years. They are barely better than the Republicans, and yet so much less effectual. Despite winning control of the executive and legislative branches, I have little faith they will accomplish a damn thing worthwhile before mid-terms in two years. Unfortunately, I have to agree. I think many democrats are just realizing how difficult getting anything done will be.
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Post by seat6 on Jan 7, 2021 10:54:00 GMT -4
Well, it turns out that the possibility of impeaching Trump after he has left office is a hotly debated topic. If it would prevent him from running in 2024, then it would be worth exploring. Can former presidents be impeached?I don’t think this is behind a paywall. Link goes to Washington Post.
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Post by eclair on Jan 7, 2021 11:03:24 GMT -4
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Post by discoprincess on Jan 7, 2021 11:05:34 GMT -4
Gov. Andrew Cuomo will send some New York State National Guard members to D.C. to help maintain order. Gov. Phil Murphy has said that he will also send some New Jersey National Guard members to D.C. to help with a "peaceful transition of power". ETA: He can be impeached after he leaves office, it will mean that he can never run for office again.
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Post by SweetOblivion on Jan 7, 2021 11:10:25 GMT -4
That's my concern with not immediately removing him from office- what's to stop him from pardoning the lot of them? He probably promised them he would. I don't care if it's two minutes before the inauguration, he needs to be stripped of power before he does more harm. At this point I wouldn't put it past him to literally burn down the White House
He'll agree to a orderly transition of power?? IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY!! That's like my friend's kid "agreeing" to go to bed on time. Guess what? It's not up to you. You're leaving no matter what
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Post by prisma on Jan 7, 2021 11:10:37 GMT -4
Today I have an emotional hangover. I am having flashbacks to 911. Already I'm wondering how much work I can get done because I can't pull myself away from the news.
The good news about Georgia was just a day ago. It feels like so, so long ago.
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Post by FiggyPudding on Jan 7, 2021 11:16:23 GMT -4
He can be impeached after he leaves office, it will mean that he can never run for office again. Please God YES.
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Post by lordofthefries on Jan 7, 2021 11:18:40 GMT -4
He can be impeached after he leaves office, it will mean that he can never run for office again. Please God YES. My preference would be that he be in jail, in a state where felons cannot vote.
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