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Post by Ginger on Jun 14, 2021 14:15:42 GMT -4
I don't know if she still does it, but Lena Dunham used to not have access to her own social media. She gave the passwords to trusted assistants and if she wanted post something, they had to give their approval first, so she wouldn't post anything damaging in the heat of the moment. It didn't stop her from posting a lot of stupid stuff. That probably wouldn't work for influencers who are on social media all day all night.
Chrissy wants to come off of the naughty step, but I still don't understand why she should be in commercials getting paid to endorse things.
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Post by ahah on Jun 14, 2021 14:16:54 GMT -4
I think it was a well written and well thought out apology. She hit all the right points. If she has truly learned and grown from the experience as she says, it'll show in the way she conducts herself. If she hasn't, that will show as well. She's proven that she can choose the right words. Time will tell how deep it goes.
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Post by cabbagekid on Jun 14, 2021 14:53:51 GMT -4
I'm confused by why she decided to include this in her apology (or her sentence structure). I understand what she's trying to say. Friendster, MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, are/were all apps connecting people and it was exciting! While most of us used it to connect with our loved ones, she used it to snark on people.
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Post by dragonflie on Jun 14, 2021 15:39:43 GMT -4
My impression: I agree that time will tell if she is truly sorry or not. Words mean little, actions mean more. I think girl likes to hear/see herself talk. 5 pages! No thanks.
I guess I also feel like: who is she? What is she in terms of a celeb who endorses and promotes things? She is a celeb BECAUSE of twitter/instagram/social media- and she used that to bully people and be a really mean and shallow person. She showed her true colors, and a lot of people laughed and cheered along. Now she's sorry? Now she's caught. People can still change, and if she does good for her. I'm not sad about her losing chances though- I'm ok if she leaves the platforms altogether, it's not like it would be a loss for humanity or something.
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Post by scarlet on Jun 14, 2021 16:03:56 GMT -4
Yeah, not buying THAT. Way too over-the-top.
Do I think she's sorry? Yes. Time will tell if she's sorry because of what it's cost HER, or because of the hurt she inflicted on others.
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Post by Auroranorth on Jun 14, 2021 16:27:45 GMT -4
I think this is a moment where she needs to put action behind her words. Time will tell. And also get off social media, because it's clearly not good for her.
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Post by WestEndGirl on Jun 14, 2021 16:50:12 GMT -4
I said earlier in this thread that I am a fan of hers and I hope she can recover from all of this. I don’t think anyone should lose their career (her next cookbook publication or cookware deal, etc) over social media.
That said, I wasn’t too sure about this apology. She made it seem like her past behavior was way in the past, years and years ago. This is a person who had annual articles about her “top clapbacks” (sigh), flew off the handle at people who commented back to her (versus ignoring), and routinely blasted the past administration in public tweets. There is a difference between sending messages directly to Courtney Stodden and tweeting responses back to trolls, but the mean, attention-seeking response is still there. And for the public tweets at the last administration, was it just ok because he/they are public figures and not young women?
It just seems a little over the top to say it was all in the past and so far removed when it really wasn’t.
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Post by Wol on Jun 14, 2021 22:20:34 GMT -4
My first thought about the epic 5 page apology was that she's trying to salvage her image so she doesn't lose revenue streams and this is the social media equivalent of a rehab stay and late night talk show apology tour. But isn't that the same sort of mean spirited snark that she's being accused of? I guess it's different because I'm nobody and she has a gazillion followers, but the essence of my snark comes from the same place. I know nothing about this woman other than her public persona and SM feeds, but I judge her because it's fun to punch up. Am I overthinking this?
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Post by dragonflie on Jun 14, 2021 22:36:07 GMT -4
I think your sentiment is honorable Wol. I do think it's different because: 1: we're not calling her a wh%re, telling her to kill herself, actually not being particularly malicious in any way I have seen. 2: The main call out is for her continued mean girl cattiness and bullying that showed no signs of stopping until she was getting "cancelled". 3: I do think it's important to recognize her behavior did not exist in a bubble. She was actively encouraged and made a career out of it because others were ok with her behavior for a long while. 4: The only way ppl like this will ever get called out is for others to say actively: this is not ok. Not with malicious intent - but being ok with her losing sponsors isn't the same as telling her to kill herself or bullying her- it's more akin to seeing her receive consequences for her bad behavior.
All I can see is that her entire career/fame was based on being a mean girl with "witty" clap backs (that weren't witty at all). She was a known entity because she behaved this way. Live by the sword, die by the sword. She was able to profit and get an ego boost by bullying others, and now she reaps what she sowed. I don't think we should all bully her the way she did others. I just think she should go away and stop being paid for being a bully.
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Post by petitesuite on Jun 14, 2021 23:03:03 GMT -4
I don't know if anyone here follows Michael Costello (designer, he was on Project Runway and has gotten some of his work on prominent red carpets) but apparently she also dm'ed him to say that he "might as well be dead" and "deserve[d] to suffer and die." He posted screencaps. The context is definitely different because at that time Costello was being accused of calling a former employee the n-word (the employee later admitted he'd made it up) but IMO it does indicate that her comments to Stodden were not exactly unique. And to people she could so easily just...ignore! The comments themselves--especially to Stodden--are vile but it's really the extent to which she went out of her way to make them that gets me.
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