gremlin45
Sloane Ranger
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Dec 9, 2008 19:29:13 GMT -4
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Post by gremlin45 on Nov 1, 2014 18:26:58 GMT -4
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wilbert
Blueblood
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Jul 4, 2006 14:33:43 GMT -4
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Post by wilbert on Nov 1, 2014 21:44:02 GMT -4
I've always liked her and she looks great. Why is the "failure to produce a male heir" her problem? Its the sperm that carries the y or x chromosome.
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Post by Oxynia on Nov 1, 2014 22:16:44 GMT -4
I've always liked her and she looks great. Why is the "failure to produce a male heir" her problem? Its the sperm that carries the y or x chromosome. This. If there's any "fault" to lay, it's with the man. She's just an incubator.
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Post by Augustus on Nov 1, 2014 23:44:18 GMT -4
I've always liked her and she looks great. Why is the "failure to produce a male heir" her problem? Its the sperm that carries the y or x chromosome. Try telling that to the ultra conservative Royal Household. And I think they blame her for not being able to get pregnant again, you know just in the case next pregnancy does deliver a boy, and only "left them with a girl." She truly is one person whom I pity. When you think of princesses you think of frilly dresses, tiaras, fancy events etc etc, not buckling from the insurmountable pressure put on you to produce a male heir. And if you don't succeed, you will be labelled as a failure and a great disappointment. It is a gilded cage I wouldn't wish on anyone.
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boxofrocks
Blueblood
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Aug 25, 2007 11:01:39 GMT -4
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Post by boxofrocks on Nov 2, 2014 12:12:31 GMT -4
I would think that part of her perceived "failure" is an inability to be an adequate incubator. She had a miscarriage a couple of years before having her daughter, which seems to be the sort of thing the RH would hold over her head given how it is portrayed.
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Post by Mugsy on Nov 3, 2014 10:39:44 GMT -4
She's lovely, and it's sad that a daughter is considered such a failure. The link says her brother produced a male heir, which "resolved the problem" so does that child take the throne over Masako's daughter? If it's male first, regardless of birth order, wouldn't her brother have the throne over her? (Obviously I'm missing something, it's early.)
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Post by chonies on Nov 3, 2014 12:19:45 GMT -4
At present, the succession is Naruhito, then Naruhito's nephew, prince Hisahito. Japan's imperial line is agnatic primogeniture, meaning eldest son. I know next to nothing about Japanese imperialalia, so I looked it up. Apparently, this strict law is very recently (relatively) borrowed from the Prussians, and previously was more flexible, going between siblings or designated heirs. I had thought it was strict primogeniture offset with concubinage, but I was kind of wrong.
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elisag
Footman
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Feb 3, 2013 11:45:48 GMT -4
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Post by elisag on Nov 3, 2014 16:18:02 GMT -4
The Japanese government and Parliament actually said OK to females on the throne in 2006, but next thing you know, Prince Akishino and his wife announced they were expecting. He is a well-known traditionalist, totally opposed to female succession. His wife was 40 then, and their two daughters already aged 14 and 11. Guess what, thanks to IVF gender selection the baby was a boy. So any measures to allow female succession was dropped after that.
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Post by Augustus on Nov 3, 2014 16:39:14 GMT -4
The Japanese government and Parliament actually said OK to females on the throne in 2006, but next thing you know, Prince Akishino and his wife announced they were expecting. He is a well-known traditionalist, totally opposed to female succession. His wife was 40 then, and their two daughters already aged 14 and 11. Guess what, thanks to IVF gender selection the baby was a boy. So any measures to allow female succession was dropped after that. Yup. Pretty much. Once the problem was solved by them having a boy, all resolve to modernise succession was dropped in a nanosecond. The entire Royal Household & government were all very very reluctant about a possible female succession, but since it no longer is necessary to even worry about it, at least not until the next generation doesn't deliver a male heir...
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Post by Ninja Bunny on Nov 4, 2014 5:33:42 GMT -4
Look at her eyes in those photographs. She has the same dead stare as Britney Spears. Poor thing. She should have run far far away instead of marrying Naruhito (even though it appears he genuinely loves her).
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