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Post by Coffeecakes on Sept 19, 2020 22:09:36 GMT -4
Even when she was a complete famewhore asshole, I will always have respect for her for refusing to take a pic with R Kelly at a Grammy party when he had asked. She told him or his handler that she didn't take pics with pedos and walked away. And this was back in 2003-04 when she was popular. That was also before the supposed outrage and shock from some in the industry when that doc came out last year. The excuses given were he is more known in the hood, etc. Except she is a rich white woman and she was well aware of his sex tape. So bravo to her for that.
I need to watch her documentary.
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esoterica
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Post by esoterica on Sept 20, 2020 8:27:23 GMT -4
I wouldn’t give her too many props for being aware. His sex tape was huge news at the time. That probably had more to do with her not wanting to be seen with someone with bad press. Plus, she was never subtle about being racist. YMMV of course.
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Post by Carolina on Sept 22, 2020 17:56:07 GMT -4
I watched the documentary and think that Paris is a solid example of an imperfect victim. I have no doubt that the "school" Paris and the other girls were sent to was awful and abusive. I think Paris suffered a great deal at this place but don't think it was what made her a nasty, bigoted piece of work. Tina Fey said she was easily the most vile, unpleasant SNL host in her time on the show. Her younger brother is an entitled POS as well and AFAIK he was never sent to a "wilderness school". The documentary mostly felt like a revisionist history image makeover. Do I think the point about the sex tape was fair? Yes. The idea that Paris imagined creating her own brand empire based on her image as a celebutante nightclubber while was in solitary at the school? Nope. I think she lucked her way into a "career" and is trying to sell the idea that this was all some master plan of hers. The stuff with the boarding school is only really mentioned during the last third of the movie. A lot of time before hand is spent trying to convince the audience that she's deeper than people think. It wasn't that successful. I truly hope she gets therapy and support to deal with the trauma she suffered at Provo Canyon. I'm sure she also has some regrets about some of the choices she's made and to a degree about where she is in her life. Maybe she can make better choices and be a kinder person in the future. If this movie and Paris help to get the word out about these terrible schools and get some of them shut down then good for her. It just won't work as the magic wand to erase all the things Paris Hilton clearly hoped it would.
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Post by chingaza on Sept 23, 2020 9:46:37 GMT -4
I watched the documentary and think that Paris is a solid example of an imperfect victim. I have no doubt that the "school" Paris and the other girls were sent to was awful and abusive. I think Paris suffered a great deal at this place but don't think it was what made her a nasty, bigoted piece of work. Tina Fey said she was easily the most vile, unpleasant SNL host in her time on the show. Her younger brother is an entitled POS as well and AFAIK he was never sent to a "wilderness school". The documentary mostly felt like a revisionist history image makeover. Do I think the point about the sex tape was fair? Yes. The idea that Paris imagined creating her own brand empire based on her image as a celebutante nightclubber while was in solitary at the school? Nope. I think she lucked her way into a "career" and is trying to sell the idea that this was all some master plan of hers. The stuff with the boarding school is only really mentioned during the last third of the movie. A lot of time before hand is spent trying to convince the audience that she's deeper than people think. It wasn't that successful. I truly hope she gets therapy and support to deal with the trauma she suffered at Provo Canyon. I'm sure she also has some regrets about some of the choices she's made and to a degree about where she is in her life. Maybe she can make better choices and be a kinder person in the future. If this movie and Paris help to get the word out about these terrible schools and get some of them shut down then good for her. It just won't work as the magic wand to erase all the things Paris Hilton clearly hoped it would. Um...WOW. Just read that article you linked, the racism is off the charts. My jaw literally dropped open. This is just another reason why its important to be retain some skepticism with things like this. Imperfect victim is right!
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Post by Wol on Sept 23, 2020 12:32:54 GMT -4
It's been 20 years and I still remember the horror of this article
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Post by Ginger on Sept 23, 2020 13:52:43 GMT -4
I watched this morning. It did shed a lot of light on her and, tbh, in hindsight she truly was treated awful in the press and by gossip hounds like Lainey (she had some really vile name for her--I can't remember what it was). Also, geez, her parents' handling of what they saw as her out-of-controlness as a teenager was pretty intense. Coming for her in the middle of the night and taking her away? What the hell, Hilton parents? I think I'm going to have to watch this documentary now. From what I remember about Paris's personal history, she got kicked out of a series of prep schools. I believe she used to brag about getting kicked out of Dwight for openly snorting cocaine during an assembly when she was about 15? And Dwight (aka Dumb White Idiots Getting High Together) was notoriously permissive when it comes to the rich kids who go there. The fact that her parents thought they needed to do something drastic about her ongoing delinquency and put her in a school with more discipline seems to me like they were trying to do the right thing. A dramatic "scare her straight" transfer to a "tough love" boarding school sounds like they were following the conventional wisdom of the 90s/early 00s. ETA: Ok, so I watched it. Paris reconnecting with her Provo classmates to speak out against the abuse at that school and others like it is possibly the only worthwhile thing she has ever done in her life. But I'm not buying what she's selling in most of the rest of the documentary. She's unhappy with her life, but I don't think it all stems back to a bad experience she had in school. Her problem is that she's still trapped in 2004. She's one of those people who refuses to leave her glory days, long after they are over and everyone else has moved on. She's every bit as insufferable, shallow, and immature as she ever was. As soon as I saw Paris in the opening frames of the documentary rummaging around her walk-in closet with a chihuahua at her side, it was clear her life hasn't changed at all since she was 19 and that is depressing. If there is one scene that sums her up, I would say it's at 57:00 minutes in the "Bad Relationships" segment. She gets into a ridiculous argument with her douchey boyfriend backstage before her DJ set at the Tomorrowland Festival (which apparently is a crowning achievement in her career). She has a screaming meltdown and orders her minions to cut off his bracelets and kick him out, which they do. The documentarian tries desperately to portray him as controlling and abusive (like all of Paris's other boyfriends, the documentary would have us believe) but what I mainly saw was Paris treating her dumb himbo accessory like shit. And then she does her DJ set and the whole thing was rather pathetic. Paris made a remark about a previous fiance that "everyone thought we had a picture perfect relationship". No. What I remember about that fake-ass relationship was the staged proposal with the tacky diamond ring, and that time she got mad at him at LAX and had her driver drive off and leave him on the curb without his luggage. She's atrocious. The real reason for this documentary is that Paris Hilton is no longer relevant and can't even get a decent amount of attention for a youtube cooking show, so she's taking a different approach.
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Post by MrsOldManBalls on Sept 24, 2020 7:57:01 GMT -4
I still find it strange that she is a DJ.
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Post by prisma on Sept 24, 2020 9:56:06 GMT -4
I think DJ is the default career for celebrity children who can't make it as models or actresses. Isn't Tom Cruise's son a DJ?
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Post by Neurochick on Sept 24, 2020 14:00:39 GMT -4
I won't be watching. No need to give this trash an audience.
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Post by Auroranorth on Sept 24, 2020 14:51:57 GMT -4
I think DJ is the default career for celebrity children who can't make it as models or actresses. Isn't Tom Cruise's son a DJ? Seems like it. link
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