wren
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Post by wren on Oct 20, 2005 16:56:29 GMT -4
I'm torn here. On the one hand, the Kate Winslet comment was repulsive, but I just laughed and laughed when I heard her Costner comments.
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swanflake
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Post by swanflake on Oct 20, 2005 17:32:07 GMT -4
Yeah, considering that Costner's bride walked down the aisle to the Theme from "Dances with Wolves", I think Joan should feel at liberty to joke about any and all possible tackiness involved in that wedding.
She walked down the aisle to the Theme from Dances with Fucking Wolves for goodness sake.
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bakaney
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Post by bakaney on Oct 20, 2005 19:44:54 GMT -4
I always crack up when I think about the time Marlee Matlin called her a b*tch in ASL. Oh, Good Lord, this cracked me up something fierce. Also, I'm now wondering how to call someone a b*tch in sign language. As for Joan, I read an article on her today where she goes on about how one should go to the plastic surgeon to get small touchups. I was all, "um, Joan meet Mirror. And moderation. And obliviousness." But in a way, her predilection for plastic surgery has kind of worked. The article said she was 72. I would have pegged her at late 50-early 60s. Yep, a b*tchy 60 would have been my guess.
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berrybearie
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Post by berrybearie on Oct 20, 2005 21:35:47 GMT -4
I used to watch her on the E! Red Carpets, but I got so tired of jokes about her wearing Depends and of her ignorance about the people she was interviewing. It was occasionally amusing to watch stars correct her when she said the wrong movie they'd been in or award they were up for. Plus it's hard to watch someone who's resembled a baboon more and more with each year.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2005 22:17:17 GMT -4
I do remember some other bit about Joan. When her husband was so depressed and ending up committing suicide, she was actually in hospital getting plastic surgery. She even writes about it in her book "Still Talking". Take from this what you will.
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foxfair
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Post by foxfair on Oct 20, 2005 23:15:04 GMT -4
Another fan here. I haven't ever seen any of her comedy and I don't think I've ever seen any footage of her on the red carpet doing her schtick either, but I recently read/learned a bit about her life story and I have to say, she's got balls of steel and I totally, totally admire her for not becoming some weepy victim (because she's got more reason than a lot of us).
I loved her reaction to that guy on the talk show, too. Loved. It. Old broad who won't take any shit, woo hoo!
Maybe I am evil but I also found the Kate Winslet comments and Costner's wife comments funny. It's not even really that Kate is fat (she's not, she seems average size to me) but it's become this huge taboo to say anything about Kate Winslet's weight and there's this part of me that admires JR for just calling that one out straight up.
::goes back to evil cave::
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Post by Ginger on Oct 20, 2005 23:29:34 GMT -4
That ring was extremely subtle. I think it was about a half carat, and no offense to anybody who wears a half carat (I wear a third carat), but I think most people who had the available cash and nothing better to spend it on would prefer something bigger. As discussed in the Costner thread, he told magazines that picking out a really tiny ring for her was to prove that she wasn't shallow, materialistic, or after his money. Like it was a test, and if she complained, he'd dump her. So instead of thinking about what was most beautiful or what would make her most happy, her ring was a badge proving to the world she's not a golddigger. Kind of humiliating, and she knew it. After the Joan Rivers incident, Kevin went and bought her the ring she wanted, which was gigantic--like six or seven carats.
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crankie
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Post by crankie on Oct 20, 2005 23:32:42 GMT -4
I'm pretty much on the fence about Joan. I think she can be hilarious... and she can be just plain mean. But I guess a lot of comics walk that line.
She was in one of the last Nip/Tuck eps from the previous season. She brought in a pic of herself (that, I'm sorry, looked like it was taken in the 1920s) and asked the docs to un-do all the surgeries she'd had done. They didn't want to do it, finally took the pic and did an age-progression model on the computer. She freaked out and decided not to do it. I thought that was pretty brave and self-aware of her.
On the other hand, I just saw a recent pic of her and she looks like that Wildenstein (whatever) woman, whose face looks almost feline because of the sheer number of surgeries. She's really starting to look bad. This seems pathetic and very un-aware.
And you KNOW if it was anyone else, she'd be ripping them up for it. In public.
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foxfair
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Post by foxfair on Oct 20, 2005 23:32:49 GMT -4
Is that true? What a jackass (Costner). Just buy her the huge rock because you love her and she wants it and you can afford it, jerk, not because Joan Rivers made fun of you. Ugh.
Hee hee.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2005 0:09:22 GMT -4
That ring was extremely subtle. I think it was about a half carat, and no offense to anybody who wears a half carat (I wear a third carat), but I think most people who had the available cash and nothing better to spend it on would prefer something bigger. As discussed in the Costner thread, he told magazines that picking out a really tiny ring for her was to prove that she wasn't shallow, materialistic, or after his money. Like it was a test, and if she complained, he'd dump her. So instead of thinking about what was most beautiful or what would make her most happy, her ring was a badge proving to the world she's not a golddigger. Kind of humiliating, and she knew it. After the Joan Rivers incident, Kevin went and bought her the ring she wanted, which was gigantic--like six or seven carats. Well, sometimes she's a psycho hose beast, other times she's right on the money. Costner's a self-absorbed asshat. However, what if the case had been that she actually wanted a nice, small diamond. Hell, what if she were like me, who wouldn't want a diamond AT ALL, and preferred say, a blue fire topaz or an aquamarine?
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