Mark Wahlberg

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Jan 19, 2012 1:03:27 GMT -4 @flamethrower said:

It's not the best quote, but in context of what he's saying, he said that if he was there and his daughters were there, then he would basically do what he can to take back the plane.

Perhaps I'm reading it differently, but here it is again:

If I was on that plane with my kids, it wouldn't have went down like it did. There would have been a lot of blood in that first-class cabin and then me saying, ‘OK, we're going to land somewhere safely, don't worry.'

The bolded parts indicate he's basically saying that had HE been on the plane, it would never have crashed. That's some tall projection going on there.

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Jan 19, 2012 1:03:27 GMT -4 @flamethrower said:

He's a tool and not a saint, but I'm not going to knock him on everything that he says or does because of some things he has done. And yes, it does matter if he apologizes to the public, even if it's other actors for what he's done. And of course, he should make restitution for those he's hurt. I'm just not going to paint him in one light for everything he does and says since then.

There have been minor sporadic incidents and accusations over the years that hint that Wahlberg is still racist, homophobic and generally a douchebag of epic proportions. MMV, but I think he's still how he always was and just puts his best public face on now. Think how many stories there were about Mel Gibson being a racist, anti-Semite and all-round arsehole - going back decades - that were brushed aside until people couldn't ignore it anymore. I'm convinced something like Sugar Tits/Oksana is going to happen with MW one day, especially with the way he keeps bringing up his Catholicism more and more.

ETA: I hope my comment doesn't sound like I think Catholics are bound to go crazy. I just mean that Wahlberg has been using his Catholicism to justify many of his decisions, including his views on M/M relationships, which is unusual for a celebrity unless they are particularly zealous.

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I know very little about him, and have never really had an opinion on him, but to try and parlay a huge tragedy into an example of his badassery is just, well, beyond crass.

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His comment was completely demeaning to the people who DID fight the terrorists on that plane and lost their lives in the process. To presume he could have killed the terrorists and somehow safely landed the plane all by himself is arrogance and insensitivity of the highest degree. He deserves whatever shitstorm is coming his way.

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I have never seen or read an interview with him that hinted at any sense of humor, charm, graciousness, humility, kindness or intelligence. This doesn't surprise me one bit.

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Jan 19, 2012 6:46:35 GMT -4 @littleediebeale said:

Jan 19, 2012 1:03:27 GMT -4 @flamethrower said:

It's not the best quote, but in context of what he's saying, he said that if he was there and his daughters were there, then he would basically do what he can to take back the plane.

Perhaps I'm reading it differently, but here it is again:

If I was on that plane with my kids, it wouldn't have went down like it did. There would have been a lot of blood in that first-class cabin and then me saying, ‘OK, we're going to land somewhere safely, don't worry.'

The bolded parts indicate he's basically saying that had HE been on the plane, it would never have crashed. That's some tall projection going on there.

…that is one of my pet peeves -- people judging what they'd do in some horrible situation when their ass is nowhere near it.
Besides we have no idea what really happened on any of the planes, we only know a little bit about the one that crashed in PA. For all we know the passengers/crew did try to fight them on the other planes.

My impression from what was put out there was that one of the factors that had prompted the people on Flight 93 to act was that they had found out what had already happened with Flights 11, 175, and the plane that had crashed into the Pentagon and they realized that they were probably next (despite whatever the hijackers were telling them). So they tried their best to get out of the situation. By the time the people on planes that had crashed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon realized what was really happening (if they ever did), there probably wasn’t enough time to gather their thoughts and act.

Jan 18, 2012 22:45:09 GMT -4 waytoocheerful said:

Didn't they say shortly after 9/11 that he was supposed to be on one of the planes? Or was that somebody else?

Is Marky Mark based in LA now? Doesn’t he still have family in the Boston area [whom he could have been visiting at the time]? His claim may be plausible.
I can understand what had motivated him to say what he did, but of course he is not the most enlightened man out there.
I think a career-killing comment might have been, “I completely sympathize with those towelheads” or something along those lines.

But, yeah…his comments totally sound like a plot for a future action flick vehicle for him.

ETA: I saw him on Anderson Cooper's talk show when I was on winter break; I'm a little surprised that this guy never bothered to get his GED. Really?

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My impression from what was put out there was that one of the factors that had prompted the people on Flight 93 to act was that they had found out what had already happened with Flights 11, 175, and the plane that had crashed into the Pentagon and they realized that they were probably next (despite whatever the hijackers were telling them).

Exactly. The people on board all the other flights thought they were involved in a 1980's-style highjacking. The kind where you land in a dusty airstrip, they hold you hostage for a while, and then eventually let you go. Nobody would have fathomed what the highjackers really intended to do because it was unprecedented. And in a regular highjacking scenario, the best chance for survival would be to cooperate and keep a low profile, not start a bloodbath.

Also, the pilots were dead, so Marky would have to include landing the plane himself in his little hero fantasy. Dumbass.

Is Marky Mark based in LA now? Doesn’t he still have family in the Boston area [whom he could have been visiting at the time]? His claim may be plausible.

The thing is, 3 of the 4 flights were bound for LA, so it's plausible for a lot of celebrities to say they could have been on board one of them. I've heard several celebs say they'd flown that route before therefore "It could have been me!" No. Marky probably does fly that route fairly often, but that's not the same as actually having a ticket for the flight and missing it. I'm a little cynical because so many C-list celebs got attention by going around telling the tale of their "close call".

The only 9/11 related celeb experience I found interesting was James Woods actually flying that route with the highjackers on board (they were rehearsing) and alerting both the cabin crew and the FBI that he thought they were highjackers. He will forever be cool with me because of that.

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Jan 19, 2012 11:20:41 GMT -4 Ginger said:

Also, the pilots were dead, so Marky would have to include landing the plane himself in his little hero fantasy. Dumbass.

He probably would have gotten on the radio with air traffic control asking, "Now how do I land this thing?"

ETA: I bet such a scenario has already played out in an action flick, but I know that in reality it wouldn't have been that simple to jump in the cockpit with no training and land a large commercial jet.

The only 9/11 related celeb experience I found interesting was James Woods actually flying that route with the highjackers on board (they were rehearsing) and alerting both the cabin crew and the FBI that he thought they were highjackers. He will forever be cool with me because of that.

For real? That is creepy.

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He probably would have gotten on the radio with air traffic control asking, "Now how do I land this thing?"

What's amazing is that the people on Flight 93 were actually faced with this reality when they fought back against the highjackers. They were trying to figure out which one of them could land the plane and how. I always get teary thinking about how extraordinary their behavior was in that situation. And when Marky Mark thinks about it, he thinks "Well *I* would have been successful!"

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He just sounds like a very angry and aggressive man. And also a total dickhead.