Serenity

[tamaradixon]

I would assume direct to video means a lesser budget (isn't that a given?), but then if its equal to the t.v. show quality, I think everyone will be happy. Its all good.

Could you quote your source for online sales representing only 6% of all sales, that's interesting as I've never heard that before (well except for that troll at imdb). Thanks.

ETA:
I think you and I are talking about the same article. You chose to only quote the negative bits though which is extremely misleading. The article is very postive.

"A sequel's unlikely," Whedon told Empire with a note of clear regret, "but it's amazing what permutations of something can happen." But if not a theatrical encore, that leaves... yes, you guessed it, a possible return to the smaller screen. "As long as I was able to service the characters with integrity and had enough money so that I wasn't hampered, then I would love to return Serenity to TV. I love that universe; it continues and those characters live on. There could be a series, there could be a miniseries, there could be all sorts of things. I'm not ruling anything out. I'll let it simmer for a while and see if anyone calls."

[mostlyharmless]

God forbid that his stiff isn't good or has zero appeal to audiences, it must be those darn suits' fault...

Well most reviews, mainstream ones not just genre, liked it so I think Whedon is justified in believing there's nothing 'wrong' with the movie. It's still 80% on rottentomatoes.com and 87% COTC. Very few reviewers, people who spend their lives watching movies, complained about bad production values. Even the SFX people have said that the new Battlestar Gallictica people copied the SFX style of Firefly because it looked so great.

And if it's only 'fanboys' buying Firefly DVDs at Amazon then how come it's still selling so well several years after the series and the release of the DVD? Wouldn't all the fanboys have their DVDs by now? It couldn't possible be new viewers liking the show could it? Or are all the crazy fanboys buying a new copy every month just to keep the sales up?

[spiderwyman]

I read it on some CNN.com page, I don't have the link with me.
I assume you didn't find the IMDB page (either that, or you are just avoiding my question

If that interview exists, that means that Browncoats will be happy, (Though I doubt Universal would give even 1 cent after they lost so much on Serenity)

[tamaradixon]

spiderwyman said:

I read it on some CNN.com page, I don't have the link with me.
I assume you didn't find the IMDB page (either that, or you are just avoiding my question

If that interview exists, that means that Browncoats will be happy, (Though I doubt Universal would give even 1 cent after they lost so much on Serenity)

I guess you missed my post above. Avoiding questions seems to be your specialty, not mine.

[spiderwyman]

Re: Serenity
« Reply #256 on Today at 6:51pm »

I just read an interview with Whedon posted at imdb and he says there's going to be a direct to dvd sequel!

That was your first post.
After I posted my link, you said that it must be an older interview, and that the one you mentioned must be newer.
Then you said that I was probably talking about the same interview you mentioned, even though my link clearly takes to an EMPIRE magazine interview, and you said IMDB, and even though in the EMPIRE interview Whedon clearly says that he will most likely return to Serenity, but neither Whedon nor the interview mention the words "ther will be a direct to dvd sequel"
You said "there's going to be a direct to dvd sequel!" which is very different from Whedon saying: "There could be a series, there could be a miniseries, there could be all sorts of things. I'm not ruling anything out. I'll let it simmer for a while and see if anyone calls."

AI have no idea how you went from IMDB to EMPIRE or from "There could be a series, there could be a miniseries, there could be all sorts of things. I'm not ruling anything out. I'll let it simmer for a while and see if anyone calls." to "there's going to be a direct to dvd sequel", but hey, maybe you got confused.
Two very different things

But I understand.
You probably mixed things up .

[tamaradixon]

Oh I remember now, it was on CNN.com, not IMDb. I think on the same page with your amazon.com article! Ya, that's it. LOL

I'm sorry, I guess I'm just not as obsessed about this as some people. I'm wrong. You're right. About everything. Happy?good.

[spiderwyman]

(cnn now? I thought u said IMDB, then EMPIRE)

No problem,
I can see the confusion.
I would also be a little confused...with all the speculation about whether there will be a sequel or not, and with all the general disappointment at the film three-peat as a failure, I can see fans getting all the different versions mixed up.
We are all happy.

[spiderwyman]

Hey, Nathan Fillion gets nominated for his acting in Serenity (no, it's not the Oscars, or the Golden Globes or the National Board of Review or any of the LA, Chicago, Boston or NY Film Critics' Circles but it's something:

Online Critics Awards Nominees

[charliebrown]

There is something just strange about this whole "Serenity" business. I never expected it to be as big as Star Wars, but it should've done better by all accounts. In my opinion (and ONLY my opinion), the whole project is a miserable failure, and I can't figure out WHY. It's like even the FANS abandoned it. But WHY? One of the things I really liked about Serenity is that it's one of the few films I've seen that started as a TV show/book/etc. but was mainly for the FANS, as opposed to being a movie to suck new people into the Firefly universe. As a fan, it was very satistfying to me.

I was a Browncoat - never saw FF during its original showing, but caught it on the DVD when it got its second wind. Was all geeked about the movie (even though I knew about the spoilers), and saw it the first day. It was truly one of the best movies I'd ever seen, and one of my most emotional experiences. But...for some reason, I'm thrilled to death that it did so poorly. I'm not too sure why, other than my bitterness over the deaths of Wash and Book. Maybe it's because I'm so accustomed to Firefly fandom and shiny icons and fanfic, where people like Inara and River don't exist and Wash is alive and I get to know what happened to Book. As much as I loved "Serenity", I didn't buy the DVD - someone gave it to me as a gift, and I have yet to watch it. (Is anyone else feeling a very strange detachment to the fandom, as of late?)

This whole thread was an awesome read, by the way!

[mostlyharmless]

I agree with you Charliebrown, Serenity should have done better. DVD sales should bring it into profit but there's no denying that box office was not good.

I think Universal thought the fans, specificaly the online fans, would spread the word but that didn't happen. Maybe online fans only spread the word to other online fans and didn't talk to Joe Public? Maybe Joe Public was more put off by someone trying to push a geeky sci fi movie?

And, though I hate to say it, I think having "From the creator of Buffy and Angel" would put people off. Most people think they are just kid's shows no better than Sabrina Teenage Witch and despite many many reviews from mainstream critics who thought the movie was great they just didn't buy it.