Celebrities & Scientology

[monsterzero]

celerydunk said:

Not to discredit Kidman, but when people are telling you that the human race came from clams, I don' think it's a quantum leap in logic to realize these people are damn near retarded.

But look at the list of celebrities that have fallen for it. I am always surprised by names that appear on the Scientology lists.

Yeah, but you also have to see that 1) a lot of celebrities don't (ala Christopher Reeve) and 2) being a clam means you get a lot of celebrity benefits without being subject to what us 'mere mortals' get fed. Yeah, it works on the gullability factor, but most of the 'followers' are just people who want to work at actors and such. I doubt all of them are truly psychotic as much as they're using them to get some place and then blowing them off. From what I've heard Clams are manipulative but if you're a big enough celeb you don't really need them and can blow them off as unneeded.

So yeah, they have a lot of 'big names,' but I doubt everybody takes this bullshit seriously. Considering how many people riff on them, I'm thinking that everybody knows it's a joke and are taking more liberties to mock them. Honestly, could the Clams really sue everybody in Hollywood who thinks they're a joke? They'll be out on their ass in minutes.

[tinyshoes]

This is a little off-topic, but a couple months back, I watched a History Channel show on the history of drug use/abuse in America. One of the guys doing commentary was a Narconon councelor (not sure how high up in the echelon he was) who sounded so square and Nixon-esque when talking about the drugged-out Sixties. It wasn't his squareness that was scary; it was that psycho-eyed stare. He just looked like a case of the brainwashed trying to take others with him. God, I'd rather OD on a speedball.

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Check out this post[/color] over at OC, in re: celebrities and sci. Really interesting...

Laurazee: It's intense stuff. I try to read it in doses. My favorite ex-sci is Tory Bezazian because she's so darn happy to be out; she was in for 30 years and high up in the church; she "audited" John Travolta... check out the picket videos at xenutv.com sometime. They had a before/after video of Tory at pickets, on both sides of the lines. In the "before" video when she's still in the cult and harassing the picketers, she's slurring and sounds so out of it that her American English is almost indecipherable, like she has a strong accent. In the after, this one sci lady is trying to harass and intimidate her, asking her "How many crimes have you covered today! How many crimes have you covered today!" and Tory rolls her eyes in a snarkalicious way and grins and says "Billions, just billlllllions" as if to say, "I know that schtick, you're way out of your league, dear"

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Radar magazine has done a very fascinating expose on that other cult, Kabbalah. Check out the similarities to Scientology.

[sueli]

From link in CTC thread

The children who are subjected to this hypnotic interrogation are usually the children of the Sea Org. This is the elite core of the Scientology organisation. The children are those who have escaped the abortion arrangements of the "Ethics Officer". Since children are regarded as an unnecessary overhead in the Sea Org, young women who get pregnant are usually pressured into aborting their unborn children. After this they are sent to the RPF (Rehabilitation Project Force - a Sea Org hard labour punishment centre) for an indefinite period until they have reformed. Those children that do get born are denied access to their parents for all but one or two hours per week.

That is seriously F'd up.

[monsterzero]

VERY.

[Brookie]

I've been reading a lot on the Operation Clambake website, just because of all the recent goings-on of Tiny Tom and his new Kitty. That's really some seriously fucked-up shit. I don't think even George Orwell in 1984 could have imagined some of what allegedly goes on in that *cough* religion.

I have to wonder, since it was recently noted in the Tiny Tom thread that when he was still married to Nicole, he tried to exit stage left from Clamtown - and what I'm thinking is that the Clams have that guy strung up by his cojones so tightly that he just can't ever get out without being totally embarrassed, humiliated and/or suicidal. I'm wondering if the guy just plain can't afford to leave because it would cost him everything. I mean, hell, I love/adore/worship/live for expensive chocolate, but I don't set up tents in the parking lot where I work, I don't send my friends little care packages of chocolate-related material, and I don't mention it every time my lips are parked in front of a microphone (not often, by the way). I would only do that if my world were being threatened in some way.

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Maybe the reason CTC is so crazy is b/c he's so absolutely paranoid about what the clams are going to dish on him, that it's driven him insane?

[aims]

That could very well be.

In the article on MSN where Scarlett Johansson explains how when meeting with Tom she was taken into a very warm room where they showed her info on the church, it states that she was givin a two hour crash course on Xenu and body thetans. Now I don't know how they do it with celebrities but I was under the impression that at first all they want to do is audit you and get you spending money on the OT levels and such. I didn't think the Xenu and BT were revealed (as secrets) until you were higher up. And I didn't think that celebrities were even told about that crazy stuff at all. Is MSN being snarky there or do they really tell entry level people about Xenu. You'd think that would drive anybody away. I thought they had to suck you in first with (false) promises of solving every little problem in your life first.

[colette]

• Have you ever tried to make the physical universe less real?

Apparently the clams have heard about my large vodka + two Benedryl trick. It makes the physical universe a LOT less real.