Celebrities & Scientology

[bakaney]

The children who are subjected to this hypnotic interrogation are usually the children of the Sea Org. This is the elite core of the Scientology organisation. The children are those who have escaped the abortion arrangements of the "Ethics Officer". Since children are regarded as an unnecessary overhead in the Sea Org, young women who get pregnant are usually pressured into aborting their unborn children. After this they are sent to the RPF (Rehabilitation Project Force - a Sea Org hard labour punishment centre) for an indefinite period until they have reformed. Those children that do get born are denied access to their parents for all but one or two hours per week.

Oh. My. Fucking. God. Scientology taints even the innocent unborn/children? I have never been more glad to have not been born to a Scientologist.

And considering that I'm harassed about twice a week by people trying to give me "stress tests", I may have to up my reaction from "No offence, but if you're a Scientologist, get the hell away from me" to "Get the fuck away! Now!"

[rorgg]

My favorite response to them was always to just turn to them and shout "BACK!" at the top of my lungs.

Startled the hell out of them generally.

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My favorite response to them was always to just turn to them and shout "BACK!" at the top of my lungs.

Hee! That's awesome.

[foxyepicurean]

Hee! Now I want to be approached by a Scientologist just so I can yell "BACK" at them. Seems only appropriate to treat them like the rabid dogs they are.

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Haha, that is really funny. I would love for one to approach me just so I could ask them if they have heard about Xenu.

How come the media doesn't care that $cientology is a ridiculous fucked up cult? They just seem to accept that it's a religion that some people subscribe to. Either that or they are afraid they will be sued if they say anything bad about it. It pisses me off! I wish they would just read any testimonial from a former $cieno who got out. It's freaking scary.

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How come the media doesn't care that $cientology is a ridiculous fucked up cult?

Maybe once they all start carving dollar signs into their foreheads and try to wage a war against psychiatrists by creepy-crawling into a few residences of unknowns who suffer from manic depression and stabbing them w/ cutlery, then using clam juice to write "Si-kiatree is bad!" on the walls, will the media realize how screwed up these nutcases are. Then they'll all spin around and try to say they've been against it all along. Stupids.

[rorgg]

The CoS has been laid pretty bare a couple of times in the past 20 or so years. I recall Time doing a pretty good expose at one point, plus one of the TV newsmags. To the surprise of no one, the stories generally ended or were followed up by the reporters talking about how they were stalked, intimidated, threatened, blackmailed, sued, and/or defamed by operatives once the CoS got a sniff of how the winds were blowing on the piece.

I'm thinking that pattern makes it less likely that any particular reporter would take up the task voluntarily. Now toss in the fact that every major media company (and there aren't that many of them any more) has ties to or is directly involved in the movie business. There's a reluctance to bite the hand that feeds you. Plus, in the past, while those who watched/read were horrified, most people just couldn't be bothered to take an interest in some little self-help religion mostly in California and Florida.

I'm thinking that MAYBE CTC/"Kate" have been so loud about this that when the next round of expose comes out (and it really can't be avoided) that a lot more people will take an interest, if for no better reason than there's a quick and effective hook to GET people to take a look.

[Malle Babbe]

reads Ethics Officer questionnaire, shudders

You know, that kind of neurotic hyperawareness and fear of making a mistake put me off in CCD class, back in the day. The fact that people pay good $ for the Co$ to do it to them blows my mind.

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These people could give old-school, pre-Vatican II Catholic nuns lessons in inducing guilt.

My first grade teacher (God rest her soul, I loved that nun!) NEVER had to resort to the ruler of legend-all she had to do was give you a sad look and shake her head, and you felt about as low as rat shit, because you let Sister Frances down.

ETA-she wasn't cruel, like these people, oh no. The difference with Catholic guilt is that you feel guilty not because of something you DID, but because of what you didn't do. Catholic guilt is when you feel guilty because you're eating a cheeseburger, when you could be giving that cheeseburger to a homeless guy. Then, when you give it to a homeless guy, you feel guilty because YOU'RE not homeless.

Sister Frances didn't have to scare the shit out of us to get us to behave, or fall in line, she just always let us know that she believed in us, and that she expected us to live up to a certain standard. So there was little need for punishment beyond missing recess. All of her students loved her.

These clams though, do it through fear and intimidation.

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Hollywood, Satanism, Scientology and Suicide

According to a twenty-two year former member, Tom Cruise went somewhat insane while doing Scientology's secret initiation levels (OT III, the story of the galactic Emperor Xenu). The member from which this information is coming said Cruise was getting his "OT III repair" processing at that time. To prevent a public scene, they quickly got him into some more hypnotic trance induction and mellowed him out.

Maybe the reason CTC doesn't know about Xenu is b/c he was programmed to forget him?

It's a bit old news, but what about this:

The Michael Jackson Scientology recruiting story is intriguing. Celebrities who bring in other BIG celebrities (like Mimi Rogers who brought in Tom Cruise) are treated even more royally inside the organization.

The speedy Lisa Marie Presley Michael Jackson marriage fits the classic profile of Scientology celebrity recruiting and in some ways is similar to the conveniently fast Travolta Marriage.

Michael Jackson was a highly vulnerable target. He had just come out of a drug rehabilitation program, went through child molesting charges, and his career was slumping. Lisa Marie reportedly chased him and wouldn't take no for an answer.

Michael Jackson is the ultimate plum to Scientology. In Scientology's mind one Michael Jackson can bring in millions of new young and naive members.
A fanatical Scientologist would easily marry or divorce to prove his or her total dedication to "bringing in" millions of people (clearing and controlling the planet.) Those celebrities who have been through the OT III initiation know that "clearing the planet" really means they are one of the elite aliens trapped here. They know the Scientology secret initiations woke them up to their real identity and world historic destiny, and that they will have to go back out into the galaxy and eventually re-fight the old space war. (The Scientology secret initiation process produces a fanatical loyalty at a virtually irrational level.)

Is Lisa Marie a Scientology fanatic? She was married to a Sea Org member who signed a "billion year" contract. She has lived extensively at Scientology centers. By this time she has probably passed the OT III initiation. It's well within the scope of Scientology covert operations and loyalty testing for her to have been on a celebrity recruiting operation for acquiring Michael Jackson.

Michael Jackson may be Scientology's current #1 celebrity recruiting target. Unfortunately, going from the PR nightmares of his recent past into the world's most dangerous satanic cult will not be the best way to improve his marketability. He may find that what he gets with Lisa Marie may not be worth the "marriage" benefit.

The parallels make one wonder, did Scientology offer Lisa Marie Presley as an easy public relations solution to Jackson's sexual identity problems and his potential child molesting problems? Getting married after being considered a homosexual or a child molester is a good way to quash those notions in the public's eye. Was this another Travolta Kelly Preston quick marriage orchestrated for public relations benefit?

If Jackson is being manipulated to get in, will he ever dare go public? If he is not in yet, are Scientology and Lisa Marie slowly isolating him by replacing his non Scientology staff and advisors with pro Scientology people to effect the final conversion? Will Jackson and his staff smell the con, and distance themselves completely and permanently from Lisa Marie and the cynical Scientology celebrity manipulators? Only time will tell...

I never really put the Lisa Marie marriage and Michael Jackson Scientology conversion together, but it makes sense spelled out here.

Also:

Scientology literature was also said to be found at the ranch when Manson and his family were captured. There were hints that he later got involved with other OTO groups or may have joined the Process, the sex and Satan group which originally broke away from Scientology.

Now I want to know about this "Process" thing. A sex and Satan group of ex-$cienos?