Celebrities & Scientology

[bakaney]

sasharae said:

Rob Thomas is a clam? These people are trying to ruin my life.

The thought of Rob with another man is so hot, my brain would be having a meltdown if the other man wasn't CTC.

Oh, Rob. Now I can't gaze at you lustfully in your videos anymore! I'll just be seeing clams everywhere. And the fact that your latest video takes place on a bed? I shall never be able to view it in the same way ever again.

That's two Matchbox 20 cds, one solo record cd and a Cd single for "Smooth" in that trash. Also, that's a bunch of mp3s deleted as well.

*whisper* There might be post hypnotic clam suggestions in there*whisper*

And Coffeecakes, that's one HELL of a creepy story. I guess my regularly being accosted in the street isn't looking so bad now (despite my hissing "Get away you Xenu Zombie!).

The worst part of this is that Rob Thomas + another guy in bed would be such a salaciously hot concept, but CTC not only negates the Rob Thomas hotness, but actually sends it into the negative values. *shudder*

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bakaney said:

Also, that's a bunch of mp3s deleted as well.

If they're ill gotten mp3s, keep them-that way, you're stealing from the clams. Score!

[Coffeecakes]

Coffeecakes, that story makes me really happy. Good for you!
BTW, did your parents ever tell those nut jobs off? How dare they approach someone else's kid with this nonsense!!

Coffeecakes, if someone did that with MY kids, I'd call them up and raise hell. That's just messed up.

I didn't want to include that since my post was already very long, but hell yes my parents said something. ;D When we got back, since my stuff was at the house, when I called my mom for a ride, I told her what happened. Since my friend's mother and stepfather were there, she decided to bring my dad along cause she knew some shit was about to go down. Needless to say, a huge argument ensued. My mom is one of those people that tell people off constantly when they deserve it(that's where I got that from. Thanks mom!). Well, she told them off and even slapped my friend's stepfather and her mother. The bastards kept calling my mom a suppressive, saying that she was preventing her child from being cleared and some shit. Then he(step dad) started saying that how dare I be so rude, when I was going to be helped. My dad shot back that they taught me to respect people who deserve to be respected, not pathetic cult freaks like them. My dad got in the stepfather's face about to kick his ass, and the little bitch backed down. That was the last time I ever saw them. Although I would talk to my friend over the phone, she started distancing herself from me until we stopped talking completely.

I know it is no coincidence that we were receiving prank calls for months after wards. Until my dad told the person that was silent on the other end, that we were never going to be stupid enough to join a cult, so to fuck off or have the balls to come to our house. It stopped after that. Yes, I love my parents even more after that. My mom has known someone that was a clam, and we knew a family that was running away from them(I didn't know that till recently). I'll tell those stories in another post, cause this post? Hella long already.

[Malle Babbe]

Just so you folks know, Salon's starting to get letters from the [blue]Kool-Aid club[/blue].

[LurkerNan]

I just read those letters. They are clear and to the point, but still ...a nutjob is a nutjob, even the literate ones.

[scarlet]

Those letters make me laugh and roll my eyes. At least they formed complete sentences, I suppose -- but like LurkerNan said, a nutjob by any other name...

I'm always amused by the basic argument of "you're just biased" when one doesn't agree with the article. Nice catch-all when you don't want to truly debate the points.

[Malle Babbe]

I was especially annoyed by the "I don't think anyone has a Paxil or Ritalin deficiency" remark. Last time I checked, SSRIs weren't "serotonin supplements" but instead corrected the circulation of said substance through your brain. In fact, unlike lithium, SSRIs were designed specifically to work in the brain to to keep serotonin from getting "stuck" in one synaptic gap, and intead chug along through the brain. The discovery that lithium could alleviate depression was a "happy accident".

Ya get that, you clams? Scientists came up with a hypothesis about neurochemicals, designed a substance that would do the job, and tested it to see if it worked. It worked well enough that it is now a drug given to folks with depression. It doesn't work all the time, but only because this is a new field of scientific investigation, and the pool of knowledge is still sparse compared to other fields.

My background is in the humanities, but I just get annoyed when the fact that the sciences are a work in progress is used against it ("intelligent design" people, I'm looking at you! I can't wait to vote against Rick Santorum next year!). The fact that paradigms and concepts change in the sciences is not a sign of its "unreliability" but is instead a sign that it, unlike other fields, has better bullshit detectors.

[huntergrayson]

Oy, I think they added the "Part Two" intro after I first read it, Guinastasia, but that's irrelevant because Part Three is up and running: "The Press vs. Scientology".

I had no idea that Time ran an anti-CO$ article back in 1991 and was subsequently sued for libel. Man, the author apparently "has said he had 10 lawyers and half a dozen private detectives following him as he researched the story, asking friends about his health and tax history." Damn! Plus, I had no idea until you guys pointed out that the Cult Awareness Network was bought up by a clam. If you guys have appreciated any of Salon's articles at all, I'd encourage you to subscribe.

So I live close to one of the Scientology Centers in LA -- the Sunset/Vermont one, not the extremely cushy Celeb Center -- and therefore received a mailing from them recently! The questionaire to work for them includes the following:

--Have you ever sued an org or Scientology principals?
--Are you a blown (hee!) staff member or Sea Org member?
--Do you have a parent or a guardian who is a rabid antagonist of Scientology?
--Do you have huge personal debts that would immediately pull you out of the org? (nothing says "legitimate religion" like asking for $$$ beforehand)

But the thing I found most interesting were the questions asking if you were connected to intelligence agencies or served in a high-security section of govt/armed forces. Does the CIA/FBI have much dirt on the clams? Oh, there was also a horribly written article by L. Ron Hubbard included. I pity Ms. Miller for having to read all of Dianetics. I'd be happy to post it, if anyone is interested.

[bakaney]

--Are you a blown (hee!) staff member or Sea Org member?

Okay, apart from the dirty meaning, what in the hell is a "blown" staff member?

Man, they really chose those words: "Blown". "Staff". "Member". Maybe CTC was the copywriter?

[huntergrayson]

I assume one who left the church or was forced out.