Celebrities & Scientology

[goaskalice]

From the first segment of the Salon article mentioned above:

other marquee names affiliated with the church, including actors John Travolta and his wife, Kelly Preston, Kirstie Alley and Jason Lee, musicians Beck, Lisa Marie Presley and Chick Corea, and Fox News anchor Greta Van Susteren.

I always forget Greta Van Susteren is a clam. I just sort of think that someone whose a journalist would see how much of a scam it all is. Then I remember "It's Greta Van Susteren. On Fox News Channel" and it all makes sense.

[cherie]

I live in LA and one of my favorite restaurants (Byrd's -- it's really more of a bar than a restaurant) is right across from the huge Clam Hollywood Celebrity Center.

One night my friend and I were there for dinner and cocktails. This guy started hitting on me and the night ended with me giving him my phone number. We ended up going out later that week. We had dinner and then we went back to his place to watch a movie. Before we watched the movie he went into the kitchen to pour us drinks, so I checked out his bookcases, per my date-screening norm. He had maybe a DOZEN leather-bound books about Scientology. I was only 21 at the time, but I'd already been in LA long enough to know about Scientology. I stayed, drank my drink, and watched the movie, but the moment the movie was over I bolted saying I had to work early the next morning (true). He must have emailed me the moment I left his apartment, because there was an email from him waiting for me when I got home. And then there was another email waiting for me when I woke up the next morning. He was trying to push the relationship into overdrive. He told me he'd never felt a connection like the one we had before (what -- you mean the one where I'm trying to get out of your apartment without pissing you off?), and he said he wanted to take me to the beach and watch the sun set. Total psycho time.

The whole Tom/Katie thing made me think of it because relationship overdrive seems to be a clam trait.

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Wow, one of those Salon emails is from "Mary Panton." That's the nee' of Mary DeMoss, who you can see in action over at xenutv.com yelling at the picketers. She was also heavily implicated in the Lisa McPherson trial. I wonder if she got divorced, or if she's just going by her nee'.

I have a friend who lives near the Celeb Centre and his apt building is the only one on the block, not owned by Scn. He says that the Scientologists around there are always scurrying.

Cherie: I'm glad you bailed!

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Actually, can't they do brainscans to see if you have a chemical imbalance? Or at least, to tell different brain structures and activity.

[Malle Babbe]

Today's Salon article is a doozy. What is especially worrisome is the Church's campaign of criminalizing psych treatment for kids, even down to a teacher telling a parent that something might be up with little Billy pounding his head in a wall, or Sarah methodically plucking out her eyebrows in class. Between the Clams and the Intelligent Design crowd, it is going to be well-nigh impossible to get an actual education at school.

Which makes me wonder; if we now have pharmacists refusing to hand out birth control, are we going to have Clam pharmacists refusing to hand out psych meds, anti-seizure medication, etc.?

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Which makes me wonder; if we now have pharmacists refusing to hand out birth control, are we going to have Clam pharmacists refusing to hand out psych meds, anti-seizure medication, etc.?

With the general clam population being so admint about non drug useage, I can't imagine one being a pharmacist. They are to clams what witches were to the puritans.where the puritan made witch claims to enemies and people they generaly disliked. the pharmicists and shrinks of the world would try to tell them they are batshit crazy and need a bit more than a vitaman to 'stabalize' them, but seriously I could see a clam passing a pharmicist and hissing at them,and them the pharmicist punching them in the face.

[thingamajig]

I just get annoyed when the fact that the sciences are a work in progress is used against it

Yes, thank you! That's how science/research works. And if science weren't a work in progress I'd be out of a job.

Actually, can't they do brainscans to see if you have a chemical imbalance? Or at least, to tell different brain structures and activity.

I don't think there's a scan that will detect the sort of chemical imbalance that leads to something like depression. Which doesn't mean, of course, that those imbalances don't exist. Properly conducted research has demonstrated that they do, which is good enough for me.

With the general clam population being so admint about non drug useage, I can't imagine one being a pharmacist.

Me either. I used to think that they were just against the use of psychiatric drugs, but now after reading what was posted here or in the CTC thread about them trying to force someone off of their epilepsy meds, I wonder just how many things the clams think can and should be cured without drugs. Which leads me to think that they're not likely to become pharmacists or to stay pharmacists if one becomes a clam.

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huntergrayson said:

So I live close to one of the Scientology Centers in LA -- the Sunset/Vermont one, not the extremely cushy Celeb Center -- and therefore received a mailing from them recently! The questionaire to work for them includes the following:

--Have you ever sued an org or Scientology principals?
--Are you a blown (hee!) staff member or Sea Org member?
--Do you have a parent or a guardian who is a rabid antagonist of Scientology?
--Do you have huge personal debts that would immediately pull you out of the org? (nothing says "legitimate religion" like asking for $$$ beforehand)

But the thing I found most interesting were the questions asking if you were connected to intelligence agencies or served in a high-security section of govt/armed forces.

Eh? Why on Earth (or Teguku, or whatever they call it) would they think anyone would answer such questions from them, given their reputation for relentlessly harassing CO$ critics/opposers? How odd.

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Wasn't there something a few months ago about Kelly Preston speaking at some kind of school board meeting about trying to make it illegal to give kids any kind of psychiatric drugs/therapy? Maybe in FL or something?

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bagofbones said:

Wasn't there something a few months ago about Kelly Preston speaking at some kind of school board meeting about trying to make it illegal to give kids any kind of psychiatric drugs/therapy? Maybe in FL or something?

Yes, it's here in FL and Kelly Preston was here in all of her Scientological glory. There are a couple of idiotic state reps and senators sponsoring legislation that says any psychiatric help/medicine/reference will become part of a child's permanent record and that parents be informed that a mental illness cannot be diagnosed through any sort of medical test. And surprise, surprise part of it was written with the help and urging of the Citizens Commission on Human Rights.