Celebrities & Scientology

[thingamajig]

auroranorth said:

I keep hoping to catch a glimpse of a country music clam, but no such luck so far.

I don't think Clamhood would become popular in country music- it's too sane for the clams.

See, that's what I think too, which is why I'm rather baffled that a "Celebrity Centre" even exists here. I have plenty of second-hand knowledge of several country music stars, and even Garth "Chris Gaines" Brooks isn't crazy enough to buy into Clamatology.

Also keep in mind that even in school districts were ther is no "evolution war" going on, teachers in the sciences are deliberately avoiding that subject so as not to lose their jobs.

Which is why I've made sure that my 5-year-old son already knows as much about evolution as a kid that age can understand.

You know, if Clambo were just spouting off about his clammy beliefs, I'd sit and laugh - but wouldn't care that much. My problem is that he's criticizing all sorts of people he has no business criticizing.

Exactly. I've known for a long time that Clambo was a bit crazy about that crap he believes in, but I didn't care. I never cared much for him as an actor, but I didn't actively avoid him simply because of his involvement in Clamatology. But now--now he's turned into such an arrogant, condescending, hateful asshole who mocks and criticizes and attacks people and things that he just doesn't understand and has no business speaking publicly about.

[zivvie]

Except for the time he made us write down in our notes to abstain from homosexual activity to keep from getting AIDS.

Obviously, your teacher never spent much time in sub-Saharan Africa.

Topic? Last night there was a rerun of the Oprah show with Kirstie Alley (talking about being fat, imagine that). Kirstie "asked" O if her favorite designer, Nate Berkus, would completely redo Kirstie's kitchen and family room. He did, and it was a big celebration. Woo-hoo. So...it's okay for $cieno-Kirstie to have a huge crush on and employ a gay man to work on her home for two months, but $cienos don't accept homosexuality? Me confused.

Also, when O and Kirstie were talking about why Kirstie got fat, O at one point said to Kirstie, "Maybe you were suppressing". Was that a $cieno reference, perchance?

[roxpopuli]

Also, when O and Kirstie were talking about why Kirstie got fat, O at one point said to Kirstie, "Maybe you were suppressing". Was that a $cieno reference, perchance?

Musta been. Oprah's no dummy.

Re: Clams and homosexuality--I assume they consider homosexuality something to be cured with vitamins and a sauna, as, like AIDS, it's all in your head (thank you Jenna Elfman, you ignorant bitch).

Then they hold the secret of your "cured" homosexuality as a blackmail trump card should you wish to defect. Lovely religion, Scientology.

[Brookie]

Celebrities like Kirstie Alley and John Travolta say Scientology is open and free, but the sci-fi religion's leadership sure hates being scrutinized in the press. When the church learned that Glamour magazine was working on an expose about a former Scientologist for its September issue, it immediately sent two emissaries to Conde Nast headquarters. An insider at Glamour said, "The story is about a woman who grew up in the church and literally fled to the country to escape her husband, mother and the Scientologists she lived with. During our fact-checking, we called the L.A. headquarters and several hours later two Scientologists showed up at Conde Nast and had security call the editor of the story to tell her she had visitors. In our offices, they demanded to see the story but we declined, noting we don't release stories until they are on stands. They showed up twice more that week with DVD's and books about Scientology and then finally with their comments. During the last visit, the Scientologists saw the latest issue of Glamour with Nicole Kidman on the cover with the tagline tease, 'Nicole opens up about Tom,' and demanded copies."

From today's Page Six. This is a religion? When the media does a writeup on other religions, do their church officials show up with how-to-brainwash-unsuspecting-people paraphernalia and make demands to see the copy up front? Probably not. Speaking for myself, I would only do this if I knew what I was doing wasn't legal, was total horseshit, and would make me look really bad. If this stuff is so great, why are the Clams so secretive about it?? Why do you have to get to an OTIII (or whatever level it is) before you're told you're actually a mollusk? Why are celebrities treated different than everyone else? I think with all the attention they're getting lately that something is going to blow, and it's going to blow big and expose even more atrocities than we already know exist.

Go, Conde Nast, go!!

[thirtythree]

Now on Entertainment OTnight,

Would that be the #1 Scientologist Entertainment Newsmagazine in America (tm)?

[monsterzero]

I agree with Brookie. Go, Conde Nast, go! Take those clams DOWN!

[batmom]

There's a letter to the editor of one of the daily rags praising Tom Cruise for his guts in critizing the pseudo-science of psychiatry. It's from the President of the Citizen's Commission on Human Rights. That organization is heavily affiliated with Scientology, right?

[Malle Babbe]

Yep, it's a front organization for the Clams.

If Psychiatry is a psuedoscience, how come you need to be an MD in order to practice it?

[Ripley]

Because it's all a conspiracy! Doctors are in on the racket because they just want their money from pushing their own prescription drugs!

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I keep wondering when Dateline, Primetime Live, Sixty-Minutes, 20/20 (heck, even Oprah) is going to do a show on Scientology. Unless I missed it, I find it very odd that with all the publicity caused by Cruise's antics, none of these topical news sources (nor Oprah) have presented some kind of up to date, in depth examination/report on this subject.


I want to see both detractors and supporters of this organization in a nationally broadcast town meeting sort of set up. After a run-down of the history of the religion and its founder, L-Ro, both sides can discuss things like:

Existence/Non-Existence of chemical imbalances in the human body. Maybe a couple of diabetics, for example, could add their opinions to that part of the discussion.

Are thetans really the bad guys responsible for all kinds of wrongful thinking/behavior, or just misunderstood, body-infiltrating, alien particle scapegoats?

Should/will there be a sequel to Battlefield Earth?

Just a few issues I'd like to see covered.