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Post by chiqui on Apr 6, 2005 22:27:24 GMT -4
This isn't exactly racial, but I had no idea actor Bill Murray has a sister who is a Catholic nun.
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veronicamars
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Post by veronicamars on Apr 6, 2005 23:53:45 GMT -4
Fergie also claims native american ancestry, but don't we all?
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soul
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Post by soul on Apr 7, 2005 3:56:42 GMT -4
Laura Dern's kids are mixed. I think they said Ben Harper is their dad. I saw pictures of him; I don't know who he is other than Laura's squeeze.
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pandora
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Post by pandora on Apr 7, 2005 14:57:55 GMT -4
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snacktastic
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Post by snacktastic on Apr 7, 2005 20:47:49 GMT -4
Laura Dern's kids are mixed. I think they said Ben Harper is their dad. I saw pictures of him; I don't know who he is other than Laura's squeeze. He's a singer/songwriter and guitarist. He's actually fairly good. I saw him open for Pearl Jam a few years ago. ETA: I didn't realize Pandora posted a link. I thought she was being snarky, saying "Who else is Ben Harper?" "Ben Harper" (OBVIOUSLY!!!)
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Gossipista
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Post by Gossipista on Apr 9, 2005 15:54:17 GMT -4
This is a topic that has always fascinated me, because I myself am an Anglo-Indian/ Eurasian (mixed English, Scots, Irish, Indian and Burmese) from India.
Quite a few famous actresses were or are alleged to be Anglo-Indians including Vivien Leigh (Scarlatt O'Hara), Merle Oberon (Queenie), Diana Riggs (the first Mrs. Peele on the Avengers, though she would be Anglo-Burmese) and Juliette Prowse (sp?) and all hid it.
Boris Karloff and Sir Cliff Richards are also Anglo-Indians; there are many others but these are the ones that come to mind.
They all hid their ancestry because like the "coloureds" in Africa and the mulattoes and quadroons in the US, Anglo-Indians did their best to pass as white, because they were rejected by both the ruling British and the Indians, who considered them casteless.
I have naturally blonde hair, blue eyes and very fair skin, but one sister looks Italian, and another Indian. When I was modeling for a big agency, way back in the early 80s, the era of Christy Brinkley and Cheryl Tiegs (thin-lipped, lank haired, apple cheeked, cereal box blondes), I was put into the "exotic" category because my features did not match my coloring.
I can't remember who else was repped by the agency at that point but I think Iman too was in that category. If you'll notice many of the Anglo-Indian actresses I mentioned have eyes that slant up and very prominent cheekbones, but many have fair skin.
People now embrace the "exoticism" that comes with being of mixed race, as is shown by many of the actors and actresses mentioned on this board. I say that is a really positive thing, and to me proves yet again that this country can be tolerant and great.
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queequeg
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Post by queequeg on Apr 9, 2005 18:00:26 GMT -4
OMG. I had no idea that all these people were rumoured to be mixed race, but I guess loads of people are actually mixed race if you go back far enough. I remember something in the papers a few years ago claiming that the Queen was related to a black portugese woman I think.
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rattlerbrat
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Post by rattlerbrat on Apr 9, 2005 18:45:33 GMT -4
Being Latino is a cultural thing, not an ethnicity or race. So you could be of European ancestry AND be Latino, if that's where you're from. Not that I want to turn this into "Ask the Latino", but now I'm curious. I got into an argument (me? ARGUING? No way!) on another board about the racial makeup of actress Nona Gaye. The argument is that she should be considered Latina because her grandfather is Cuban. Now, when it comes to being Latino, is there a common "one-drop" rule, like some blacks try to enforce? "Oh, your sisterbabydaddymamacousin was black; therefore, you're black!" Nona's father was black and her mother was 1/2 white (and half Afro-Cuban), so in this case, I can understand saying "part Latina" or maaaaaybe even half, if you want to argue that if your father is Latino, then you're Latina. But how far back into the makeup does one go before one can say "I'm Latina"?
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ahenobarbus
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Post by ahenobarbus on Apr 9, 2005 19:54:03 GMT -4
Hardly any Latinos really care about this. The ones that do are the ones who have been more assimilated to the U.S., who speak Spanish poorly, etc.
Remember, the Mexicans who who started identifying themselves with Pre-Columbian Mexico in the last century were almost pure European descent. Ethnic authenticity is not something that gets paid much attention.
Anyway, the idea that there's a 'Latin community' that comes to a consensus on these things is ridiculous. Just because some Dominicans in New York tell you one thing, does not mean the Cubans in Florida or Guatemalans in the Southwest will agree with them. Not only do the different nationalities argue with each other, but people living in different parts of the U.S. don't agree, and old immigrants are often at odds with new immigrants.
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hillbillylover
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Post by hillbillylover on Apr 10, 2005 2:00:31 GMT -4
Esai Morales very casually admitted in an interview that he has a great grandparent who was black. You could have knocked me over with a feather.
I'm still surprised to hear any celebrity admit to being part black. Where I'm from, most non-blacks would rather say they were related to Satin himself before they'd admit to having African ancestry.
Anyway, on a happier note, I love talking about actress Nicole Lyn because her family background is so - if you will excuse the term - colorful.
Her father's family is Chinese Jamaican and they moved to Canada. Her mother's family is Afro-Jamaican and they moved to America. Nicole was born and reared in in Toronto except for the one year in high school that she spent in Jamaica.
So Nicole is a Canadian- American of Afro-Asian Jamaican descent. Yet many people assume that she is half white and half black because she looks Caucasian. In fact, she played the character of Marie St. Marie, the young mixed-race woman who can pass for white in The Feast of All Saints.
I suppose most people assume that all Afro-Asian woman would have to look like Kimora Lee Simmons.
And Nicole married Dule Hill of The West Wing who is Jamaican American.
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