mimsie
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Post by mimsie on Apr 13, 2005 21:09:59 GMT -4
Wow Hillbillylover! You must be from - I don't know - the fifties? I mean, I don't know anyone who's ever said anything like the above comment (maybe they were thinking it I don't know). To me, being part ethnic is very cool and I thought celebrities would talk about it any chance they could. I remember way back in the nineties when I learned Mariah Carey was half black and I thought it was the coolest thing. Or, in Halle Berry's case it's almost like she doesn't want to talk about being half white. That being said, I wonder if Adrian Grenier is part Hispanic or black. He has a certain richness in his looks.
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Post by Mouse on Apr 13, 2005 21:37:48 GMT -4
I'm surprised nobody's brought up Eddie and Alex Van Halen, who are half Dutch and half Indonesian.
Karen O of the Yeah Yeah Yeahs is half Korean.
Ronnie Spector is of mixed black, white, and Chinese descent.
The late, great Jimi Hendrix was a quarter Cherokee.
And the equally late, great Bob Marley had a black mother and a white father.
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snacktastic
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Post by snacktastic on Apr 13, 2005 21:58:06 GMT -4
I am not sure about that. I know that alot of younger generations are more open but I have older family members that are biracial and while, we talked about it openly in our family, it wasn't really advertised in the community at large. I know alot of friends from white families (like mine) that have similar situations. Alot of times, these members will say they are part Greek or Italian or something. It seems weird in retrospect, but I guess that is indicative that at least, times have finally changed for people being born in my generation and people younger than me.
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mrpancake
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Post by mrpancake on Apr 13, 2005 22:10:12 GMT -4
Exactly. My Grandpa is half Mexican and half Greek. He refrences his Greek side very often, but I have never heard him acknowledge his Mexican side. He seems to be very proud of one side of his heritage, but not to acknowledge the other. I'm not sure I've ever heard by Grandma acknowledge her Puerto Rican-ness out loud, except by her saying that she was a bit "darker" than everyone else. She also has only white friends that I know of, which is a bit of a shock to me, because she had a very Puerto Rican last name when she was unmarried. I think being proud of being of mixed race is definitely a more modern idea rather than an old idea. Or at least for some of my family.
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goaskalice
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Post by goaskalice on Apr 13, 2005 22:28:51 GMT -4
Tommy Chong is part-Chinese and all Canadian.
Andrew Dan Jumbo anyone? He was born in Nigeria and raised in England. And he's all kinds of hot to me.
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rattlerbrat
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Post by rattlerbrat on Apr 13, 2005 22:50:53 GMT -4
To me? Nothing. I didn't know she had a white mother until she said so. But this was pre-nose job.
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hillbillylover
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Post by hillbillylover on Apr 13, 2005 23:43:16 GMT -4
While I agree that such attitudes are from they fifties, they still exist in more hearts across the U.S. than many care to admit. It's much more artfully hidden. And I agree with those who say that it's much more strongly felt in older generations. But unfortunately, it still exists.
For some folks, African ancestry still taints the gene pool.
Just a few years ago there was a Dateline NBC story about a peculiar law in my neck of the woods that was still on the books from segregation times. It was one of those old one drop laws that deemed anyone with any percentage of African ancestry to be black.
Well, this poor fiftyish woman who was phenotypically white, found out that her great, great, grandmother was black. The woman was devastated. So was her hubby. And her kids weren't too thrilled about it either.
They didn't see it as some interesting bit of family history that didn't really change anything about who she was or who they were. They saw it as some shameful secret that they had to endure.
Nobody said; "Big deal. Who cares?" She and her hubby kept insisting that she was white when nobody was saying otherwise.
But it was as if they thought that upon hearing this news, other people would no longer think so. She was obviously terrified of loosing the psychological feeling of superiority she'd felt all her life. So she was suing to get that law off the books that classified her as black. Not because it was antiquated or silly or racist or because it goes against everything that science now tells us about "race." But because she truly believed that being part black made her somehow less of a person.
It was very very sad.
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veronicamars
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Post by veronicamars on Apr 13, 2005 23:58:46 GMT -4
Is Nicole Ari Parker mixed?
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soul
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Post by soul on Apr 17, 2005 4:19:16 GMT -4
I just wanted to say that Mariah was on the slow boat to announce her black heritage. I remember on Radio Scope they asked her, and she went on to list the laundry list of ethnicities that she had in her blood, none of them being black.
Moreover, there are still young people who do not want to recognize their race, and I don't think this way of thinking was left behind in the fifties.
After saying that, I want to go back to the 40s, I suppose. I heard on a sports radio station that Babe Ruth's mother was half-black, and that Ty Cobb and other baseball players use to tease him about being black, because his features, darker skin, wide nose, and full lips did not present itself as being white. Plus, the fact he came from a black city, Baltimore.
Since he was raised in an orphanage there was the thought that he might not have known he was black.
Anyway, I found this quite interesting, because Babe Ruth was a big name in history.
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Gossipista
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Post by Gossipista on Apr 17, 2005 13:29:24 GMT -4
I was watching TV a few years back and Norah Jones came on. I had never seen her but thought she was an Anglo-Indian ( like I am -- mixed blood from India, though I look like a very exotic sort of white).
My all-white husband insisted that, no, Jones was black or mulatto (a mix of white and black).
It was only later that we found out that her birth father was famed (Indian from India) musician Ravi Shankar.
Which only proves that sometimes people of mixed race can spot one of their own. Kudos to Norah on her success, though, having also worked in music, I would suspect that whoever signed her knew she was Shankar's daughter and knew that dash of exoticism and famous pedigree -- along with the abandonment by her father, would add to her "backstory" when the publicity mill started grinding.
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