Conspiracy Theorists Unite!!!

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I was just about to suggest "Loose Change" to anyone interested, blackship, but you beat me to it. There's some pretty interesting information there, even if (like me) you don't buy the whole "the planes landed in ohio!" "the cell phone calls were faked!" thing. It is on youtube, for anyone intrested.

[divasahm]

jenius said:

I had a family member who firmly believed that the moon landing was faked. There was no telling him otherwise. Actually, now that I think about it, I've known a shocking number of people who thought that. Maybe it's a backwoods Pennsylvania thing?

My great-grandmother from east Texas firmly believed that the moon landings were faked and that pro wrestling was real and unstaged.

I'd also like to take this opportunity to say that the title of this thread reminds me of a bumper sticker I once saw: "Dyslexics of the world UNTIE!"

[Matilda]

I'm convinced that Flight 93 was shot down. I distinctly remember it being reported in the UK media on 11th Sep that the US airforce had shot down a plane over Pennsylvania, it was reported like it was a fact. Then it was never mentioned again, like a lot of things that happened that day (eg. people jumping from the Twin Towers).

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I also believe that Flight 93 was shot down.

I saw a documentary on National Geographic Channel last month about the 9/11 conspiracy theorists, specifically the Loose Change guys. They lose any credibility when they're putting things out there like "no plane hit the Pentagon," their claim that the Twin Towers were pre-rigged with explosives and that the explosives, not the planes, were the reason for the buildings coming down, and their assertion that the phone calls from the flights were phony. All that is easily disproved.

[Sukie]

littleediebeale said:

I also believe that Flight 93 was shot down.

I saw a documentary on National Geographic Channel last month about the 9/11 conspiracy theorists, specifically the Loose Change guys. They lose any credibility when they're putting things out there like "no plane hit the Pentagon," their claim that the Twin Towers were pre-rigged with explosives and that the explosives, not the planes, were the reason for the buildings coming down, and their assertion that the phone calls from the flights were phony. All that is easily disproved.

LEB, I think that was the one I saw. I agree that their credibility is shot when they take on the really far out their ideas. If I recall, part of their reasoning was that no one in the mainstream media even questions any of events surrounding 9-11, so they were/are presenting "other"views. In the interview I saw, they did say that they were backing off some of the more outlandish claims and that they would be releasing a 3rd edition of Loose Change, leaving the ones they could disprove out.

[muffinette]

My father in law, an incredibly smart and educated person, thinks the moon landing was staged.

He has explained it to me in historical context: at the time, the US was under incredible pressure to put a man on the moon as fast as possible so they could beat the Soviet Union, and they had the means and opportunity to fake it. Put that way, I have to concede that it is not completely outside the scope of possibility. I would be surprised if it hadn't occurred to them at the time to try and fake it actually, and it was probably one of the backup plans in case everything went wrong. But the biggest proof that it was real is in the fact that so many years later, no one has confessed on their deathbed yet.

[Ladybug]

I have a question. Do the moon landing conspiracy theorists think all the moon landings were fake or just the first one?

[muffinette]

Just the first one, in my FIL's case. Because of political pressure to get a man up there quickly; there was no such pressure in subsequent landings.

[sammybee]

My husband has the same theories as muffinette's FIL. And he's not a quack (completely ), he's a rocket scientist. So far he hasn't convinced me.

ETA: my husband is also from backwoods PA, so.... new conspiracy theory?

[rantingraven]

they would be releasing a 3rd edition of Loose Change, leaving the ones they could disprove out.

I had heard that and am looking forward to it.

They lose any credibility when they're putting things out there like "no plane hit the Pentagon,"

Oh dear. I guess I'm going to have to brand myself as a total tinfoil hat-wearing nutcase because I kinda agree with the "Loose Change" guys. I don't think a plane hit the Pentagon nor did a plane crash in Pennsylvania. (runs to concrete bunker in the backyard to hide)