Unpopular TV Opinions

[monsterzero]

Cheers was sad if you look at it. Now only are they all losers, but they adknowledge the fact and don't break out of it until Woody finally becomes a congressman and has to give them all jobs and such. And what happens to Sam? Nothing.

[MrsOldManBalls]

Cheers was not funny. Ted Danson played a misogynistic, cheating, lying scumbag with a huuuuuge ego

Substitute Happy Days for Cheers and that's how I felt about The Fonz. My little grade school self hated that man, the women who flocked to him, and the other characters who admired him.

[pepper67]

Cheers was sad if you look at it. Now only are they all losers, but they adknowledge the fact and don't break out of it until Woody finally becomes a congressman and has to give them all jobs and such. And what happens to Sam? Nothing.

But wasn't it supposed to be funny? I always thought that Frasier was far funnier, mainly because of John Mahoney and David Hyde Pierce...and I'm not that keen on Frasier!

MrsOldManBalls, I never thought of Fonzie in that way...but I can see where you're coming from. And (another unpopular TV opinion here), Mr and Mrs Cunningham used to annoy me. He was so grouchy and she was saccharine sweet.

ETA that I'm sure I remember someone writing about Fonzie being a total loser - but I can't remember where. The point of it was that here's this 30+ year old man (I've got no idea of Fonzie's age), hanging around with high school kids, wearing a leather jacket and riding a motorbike as he desperately tries to hang onto his youth.

[MrsOldManBalls]

Pepper67 , I read the same thing about Fonzie. (I can't recall where either.) Hearing him called a loser warmed my heart.

[monsterzero]

Why was the Fonz cool again? Seriously, he was a head shorter than the rest of them and damn near retarded. Eyyyyyyyy, I have serious Freudian issues, eyyyy!

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And it is amusing to contrast the "Fonz" image with the nebbishy Henry Winkler who played him.

The character started out as a tough hood with no lines. Then he became the "breakout character". So they had to give him backstory and he, as you guys noted, ended up this 30something loser living in a garage over his friend's parent's house. But the chicks loved him. Eeeeeyyyyy!!

Didn't he end the show's run as a high school teacher?

I also don't get the massive appeal of "Chappelle's Show". It would be funny if he was Richard Pryor and it was 1978. But this whole "Black people be like dis, but White people, they are like this....." vein of comedy has been mined out.

Is it unpopular to hate the "Debbie Downer" recurring SNL skit? I watch about 5 minutes of the show per season, but every time I turn it on there is DD. The joke may have been funny once, but this skit is putting the Cheerleaders to shame for the one-joke-over-and-over-hall-of-shame. Waaah Waaaah!!!

[monsterzero]

Didn't he end the show's run as a high school teacher?

There's another thing I don't get: Happy Days's whole schtick was taking place back in the '50s and yet in those conservative times an ex-biker criminal with no real education could become a paragon of virtue? COME ON! They were going too far in those wacky '70s and their concern to remake '70s heroes into '50s paragons creates mondo humor.

I also don't get the massive appeal of "Chappelle's Show". It would be funny if he was Richard Pryor and it was 1978. But this whole "Black people be like dis, but White people, they are like this....." vein of comedy has been mined out.

Yeah, but right now I'm having a really hard time thinking of a black comedian that doesn't keep going back to this fountain of 'hilarity' either. Chris Rock was able to defeat it partially but....can someone help here?

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Bill Cosby was always finding common ground where the jokes pointed out people's similarities rather than their differences. "Buck-buck #1, coming in!!!"

I forgot to brag that I have never seen a single episode of "Friends", ever. And I don't love Raymond. I was subjected to about 10 minutes of him on a flight I took recently, and it was just so "wacky family with zany neighbor". After "Married With Children" sent this premise up so well for years, I just can't take it seriously anymore.

[monsterzero]

Okay, confession time: I like watching WWE's shows. Yeah, it's full of hoyay and completely fucking stupid (like the insane hardcore wrestler du jour, not to mention all the accepted uses of sexism which do not play right), but at least it's better than any of those 'fat guy/thin wife/witty kids/various locations/wacky shitcom' antics. Unless someone can imagine anything better than an Everybody Loves Raymond episode where Marie gets beaten with a metal folding chair.

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monsterzero said:

Okay, confession time: I like watching WWE's shows. Yeah, it's full of hoyay and completely fucking stupid (like the insane hardcore wrestler du jour, not to mention all the accepted uses of sexism which do not play right), but at least it's better than any of those 'fat guy/thin wife/witty kids/various locations/wacky shitcom' antics. Unless someone can imagine anything better than an Everybody Loves Raymond episode where Marie gets beaten with a metal folding chair.

It's okay, I do too. Although I haven't been watching recently because I've been preocuppied, I've been to a few live shows, though. The last one was non-televised, and I was standing by the barricades where they walk out, and standing next to me was this 10-year-old girl. We were pretty close, and she was yelling at all the various wrestlers waiting behind the curtain (and they heard her) and it was pretty funny.


And Calvin, I hate the "Debbie Downer" skits too.