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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2005 23:15:59 GMT -4
I'm a bit confused about exactly what happened. Was Soon Yi underage when the relationship started and Woody had nude pics of her? Wouldn't he go to jail for that if it were true? And what were the molestation charges about and is that related to Soon Yi was well?
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Post by heavenwithagun on Nov 2, 2005 23:52:19 GMT -4
And I don't know what to believe about the molestation charges of Mia's. I guess I tend to believe her because she really doesn't come across as a vengeful person. Yes, she was angry and humiliated by Woody and Soon Yi, but to make up charges like that seem to go against the kind of person she's portrayed to be. After finding the pics of Soon-Yi, I think Mia had every right to be freaked out and paranoid. Even though Woody was cleared, there was plenty of reason to believe that he was guilty. I'm not choosing either side (because I don't know what to think either) but Mia was a mother who had just had the sky fall in. I'm a bit confused about exactly what happened. Was Soon Yi underage when the relationship started and Woody had nude pics of her? Wouldn't he go to jail for that if it were true? And what were the molestation charges about and is that related to Soon Yi was well? I think by the time the pics were found, or when they were taken, she was of age. I think if Mia could have put him in jail, she would have. That's my only basis for the guess. The molestation was about the two youngest kids, Dylan and Satchel. One of them has since change their name so they might be the same person. One of the kids was Mia's and Woody's natural kid and one was adopted, a blonde girl, I think. Something happened at Mia's place in Connecticut. She found one of the kids with no pants, while in Woody's care. Also, Soon-Yi's brother, also an adoptee, testified for Mia about the baby without the pants, and other stuff. If I have time, I'll look in my book for the (correct) details.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2005 23:58:33 GMT -4
I hadn't heard about all those molestation charges. Thanks for the info.
Isn't their biological son a genius or something. I saw him interviewed briefly once and he was only about 16 yet he was attending law school or something similar. I don't remember the details. But he seemed really sweat and dedicated to his mother.
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Post by mffp on Nov 3, 2005 0:47:04 GMT -4
Mia's book is ok... she comes off as a little flakey though. Especially her justifying not leaving Woody despite his apparently doing EVERYTHING he can to make her leave him. She put her kids through a lot of crap by hanging onto him for so long. Even adopting more children with a man she knew was majorly screwed up... and not at all interested in the kids. She comes off as a doormat in recounting all her relationships.
Both the kids she had with Woody have new names ... I thought that was a little whack. The biological son is a genius.. and very cute. He looks exactly like a young Mia. He does humanitarian work with her. Woody was accused of being obsessed with and fondling the little girl.
I still LOVE Annie Hall and Hannah and Her Sisters. I still love Rosemary's Baby. I try not to think about the personal stuff. I do think they're both pretty nuts.
Soon Yi apparently was an abandoned, abused orphan. Mia blames a lot of her behavior on such a traumatic childhood. She never learned how to bond with her mother.
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Post by Sunnyhorse on Nov 3, 2005 0:47:39 GMT -4
Mia and Woody's biological son Satchel changed his name to Seamus after the dustup between his parents. He's the prodigy. His sister Dylan (adopted by Farrow and Allen) changed hers to Eliza.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2005 1:10:17 GMT -4
Woody is a really selfish bastard but since he never played a paternal role with any of the kids I don't think his relationship with Soon Yi is equivalent to a father molesting his daughter. I also question whether he really molested the other daughter - Dylan. I'd say there's evidence that the relationship was weird/inappropriate, but molestation? That's a damn serious charge. I wouldn't put it past Mia (or any mother in her situation with Woody) to unconciously fabricate the child molestation story in her efforts to"take away your daughter. Just like you took away mine." I think the reason Woody Allen hasn't fought to re-establish his paternal rights with Dylan and the son Seamus is because he just doesn't care enough. He really is a bastard. But I have a hard time buying the child molestation charges. He's not exactly a "child lover" like Michael Jackson, but who knows? I'm not exactly knowledgable on the psyche's of child molestators.
The first and only celebrity couple breakup that got to me was Woody and Mia. I was a huge fan of both. I loved his films and I thought she was this amazing woman. I thought they were living the lives I wanted to live: Cultured, wealthy literate New York intellectuals that also loved family and had empathy for the less fortunate. I completely bought into the image they were projecting. I was really disturbed and disillusioned by the breakup and I've never thought the same about either of them again. He's a self absorbed bastard and I think she's kind of a flake and I'm suspicious of her compulsive adopting. (As in, who is she really doing this for? Herself? Or the kdis?). I've been skeptical about the images celebs try to project ever since.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2005 1:32:54 GMT -4
Yep. Just like Charlie Chaplin and Pablo Picasso (among others). I like Woody's films ALOT. But I don't admire or like how he conducts his personal life. He appears to be an incredibly self-absorbed ass. I wonder what kind of father he is to those little girls. I bet he's either really distant and cold or inappropriately overbearing (like I think he was with Mia Farrow's daughter Dylan). I bet there is no in-between with him. What was he like with Dylan? (How many kids does Mia have altogether, anyways?) How does Andre Previn feel about Woody? (Although wasn't he something of an ass and a womanizer himself? Mostly what I know of him is from him conducting the Pittsburgh Symphony). Does he still have a relationship with Soon Yi? Woody creeps the shit out of me. He's just so skeevy and he gives me the collywobbles. He IS the personification of "Dirty Old Man."
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Post by Hamatron on Nov 3, 2005 1:33:08 GMT -4
Woody Allen is definitely on my shit list. I've seen a lot of his films, and haven't been that into any of them. Everything I hear about his personal life seems to signify that he's a ginormous tool. I like weirdos, nerds, and freaks. I don't like fussy, self-obsessed, pervs, which he has always seemed to be one for me. Oh, and then there's this quote from this interview: "All the crap they tell you about... getting joy and having a kind of wisdom in your golden years - it's all tripe," said Allen, who turns 70 on 1 December. "I've gained no insight, no mellowing. I would make the same mistakes again."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2005 1:42:16 GMT -4
Woody and Mia had three children together: Moses, an adopted son, Dylan, an adopted daughter, and Satchel, a biological son.
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Post by Mutagen on Nov 3, 2005 8:12:17 GMT -4
"All the crap they tell you about... getting joy and having a kind of wisdom in your golden years - it's all tripe," said Allen, who turns 70 on 1 December. "I've gained no insight, no mellowing. I would make the same mistakes again." Actually, if it were almost anybody other than Woody Allen, that would probably make me laugh a lot. Unfortunately, "not mellowing" and "no insight" in Woody's case... well...
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