The View

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When the ex-gay-man said he will not have sex with a woman until he is married.....I'm glad he was on Tv to warn the women out there. {it was ok for him to have sex with men...not a woman?}.

[swanflake]

I didn't think the ladies asked enough questions in that segment. I hope 20/20 does a follow up, or something.

The boy said he was having fun as a gay teen at only 15 years old, and he also said he lived in a small town. How much fun can gay teens have in a small town? Was he sneaking off to a gay night club and either sneaking in or hovering around the front? And if his parents were such good Christians, where were they to stop him from sneaking around to wherever he had to go to find suitors, because I find it hard to believe he had a lot of selection at a small town high school.

The boy also said that homos are NOT monogamous at all--that the "lifestyle" is all about sleeping around. Most of the ladies spoke up and said "That's NOT true!" but I wish they had pushed that more.

And then at the end Joy started saying some junk like "It's all about fun!" and she kept making really over-the-top, odd gestures. I didn't get her point.

It was a rather dull segment for such a controversial topic.

[clementine74]

Yeah, the ladies (Joy, I'm disappointed!) were ridiculously non-confrontational. This is the only time I've ever wished Rosie O'Donnell was on.
And I think Joy was being weird because she knew she couldn't really say what she wanted to say (something along the lines of "bitch, please"??)
That segment WAS really offensive--I love that little mo saying, "I'm getting there" when asked if he had any attraction to women! It's not an acquired taste, like sake, you damn fool! I would love to see some crazed person hijacking a straight teen and training him to be gay! Utterly ludicrous.

[swanflake]

Season Nine has begun!

Who saw today's Hot Topics? I thought Star was being a little insensitive and Bitsy was being REALLY insensitive (surprise) when talking about the 14 year old girl who married a 20 year old guy. They already had their minds made up before Barbara even got a chance to give a deeper explanation of the situation. And I LOVED it when Joy asked Bitsy if she felt as strongly about the negligence of the head of FEMA as she does the negligence of this girl's mother.

I can't wait to see 20/20 this Friday to get the whole story about that couple.

[ishtarzana]

Oh SwanFlake, I am watching this trainwreck of a show right now.

I can't wait until Bitsy's kid is ols enough to DEFY her mother, SNEAK around, SLEEP around, get in trouble and then by Bitsy's own definition, it would be Bitsy to blame.

14 year old girls (having been one) are so very easy to keep control of...NOT.

Meredith, Joy, Barbara all having wisdom that comes with maturity, parental experience and patience. Star and Bitsy just don't have any of that. Star might be long in the tooth, a bit, but she's lacking in the life experience of long marriage/relationship and parenthood.

I thought Joy was gonna lose it towards the end! I think I just keep this show on, in the background, for the day she blows.

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Exactly, Bitsy and Star were so one tracted in their minds that it didn't occur to them that this really does happen daily and this 20 year old guy was actually a man about it, instead of giving her some cash to go abort the child or run off, he took responsiblity for this baby. Is what he did by sleeping with a 14 year old girl right?Hell no, but I resepct him more than the men that run off on their baby mama and leave them with nothing.I really hated how Bitsy and Star were over talking all the other women who were trying to counter their point by screaching "Pedifile!" over and over. And Star mentioning the Librairy as an alternative to going out and having sex etc. I was yelling at the TV that Librairy's close around 5 in the country and what should we do unitl they reopen?Blah, These women are going to give me a heart attack one day.

[dmarie53]

Don't you just love it when people who have absolutely no experience with a certain situation start giving advice and rhetoric on how to handle that situation. Example, the never married (or person never having been in a long term relationship) telling married people how to deal with their relationship . The non-parent giving parenting advice, etc. etc.

I realize Elisabeth is giving her "20 something" viewpoint but she seems so closed minded for someone so young. All I can say is this woman is in for a rude awakening some day.

[swanflake]

The topic really struck a nerve with me. Barbara, Meredith, and Joy were trying to look at it from an accurate sociological perspective. They said that the 20 year old guy is working in a manual labor job to support the 14 year old girl who is his wife, their daughter, his mother, and his wife's mother. I mean, wow. The 14 year old girl probably feels a sense of stability from this guy that she probably felt she couldn't have otherwise. Is this relationship healthy? Probably not. But should this guy go to jail for this whole situation? Star and Bitsy were ready to lock him up, and Bitsy wanted to lock the girl's mother up.

Bitsy said something about the mother not doing her job as a parent, and then Joy said that sometime some people just can't do their job as a parent, and Bitsy said she "refused" to believe that. Well I think that's really easy for HER to say.

I've never e-mailed any of them before, but I think after today's show, I might.

[ishtarzana]

well the way Bitsy was choked up and teary while ranting (at least to my vision)...
makes me wonder what's in her past.

[swanflake]

ishtarzana said:

well the way Bitsy was choked up and teary while ranting (at least to my vision)...
makes me wonder what's in her past.

She didn't seem that teary to me.

Perhaps she has something dark and painful in her past that made her get emotional on the topic, but she's gotten pretty riled up in the past on some pretty mundane topics. I would bet that even if she was near tears, it's probably because this time her mean-spiritedness manifested itself as crying rather than just screaming incoherently (like she's done about flag burning and whatnot).

But even if she has experienced something horrendous that paralleled the topic they were discussing, honestly, I don't care. She has made it clear so many times that her right to her opinion superceeds having understanding for others that I think she's forfeited her right to use something like "you don't know what I've been through" as an argument. Just today on the show the ladies were discussing how Russell Crowe said he's unremorseful about the phone assult thing because he said he grew up with an attitude that if men didn't act like that, they were "poofs". The ladies all said how stupid of an attitude that is, and then Bitsy weighed in saying something like "today, we want everyone to be women!" and she wrapped up her nonsense by saying "Be a MAN!" as though she not only supports but actually values Crowe's barbaric attitudes. If she thinks that it's okay for Russell Crowe to assault someone to prove he's not a homo, then, I'm sorry, that woman deserves no sensitivity no matter what may have happened to her.