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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2011 1:31:28 GMT -4
That had the feeling of a series finale and not a season finale. Apparently this episode was written when the contract negotiations were still going on so they wanted an episode that could function as a series finale if they didn't reach an agreement. When Gus walked out of that room with half his face missing I thought it was going to be revealed that he was a terminator. Not sure what I thought of that yet but the scenes leading up to the explosion were amazing. Just Gus scraping the chair along the floor was incredibly tense. |
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Post by WitchyPoo on Oct 10, 2011 2:18:20 GMT -4
The silent sequence when Walt called the neighbor to check on his house had me so tensed up. Damn, I was convinced the house was going to blow up.
Great finale. Jesse is so not convinced. That shit is going to come back up, it has to.
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Post by kostgard on Oct 10, 2011 2:53:47 GMT -4
That felt like a series finale if BB was going for a happy ending (or as happy as BB gets), but this series has to end with Walt dead -- either by a bullet or by cancer.
It's gonna get uglier because this is where Walt is just going to completely transform into Heisenberg. I mean, he now has the perfect opportunity to walk away from the whole thing. Gus is dead, the cartel is pretty much out of the picture, the lab is destroyed, Skyler said the car wash is profitable and could support them. But he's not going to. He loves the power he's got now and he'll find some sort of excuse to start cooking again and seal his own fate. He'll be taken down by his own ego.
but how it happens will be the question. Sooner or later Jesse will have to find out about Jane and/or Brock. With Gus getting blown up with an old cartel member and the laundromat burning down, Hank will know that he was right about both. And when the blue meth starts showing up again, Hank will know that Heisenberg is still out there (if he hasn't already figured out Walt is involved). Either one of them could take him down. Or a tumor could pop up again.
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Post by Smilla on Oct 10, 2011 3:43:04 GMT -4
I really...didn't love that ending.
It did explain how the cigarette went missing...Walt was the only one who knew it was there...but I think it's still unbelievable that Walt knew Jesse would assume Walt did it--and then Walt could use that as an opportunity to get Jesse to commit to taking out Gus. Or, at least, I found it unbelievable. Would have preferred that an accident regarding the kid's health turned into a fortuitous opportunity for Walt to "turn" Jesse and effect the scheme.
I do like the fact that season five could start pretty much anywhere now. (Almost) impossible to predict what they'll do to get to the end.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2011 9:12:05 GMT -4
After Gus died, I was looking at the info for the episode and noticed this episode was titled Face Off. Works on several levels.
Walt is just full-on evil now, I swear he even had the crazy eyes going at the end. Now I'm hoping the series ends with Jesse taking him out after he finds out about Jane and Brock.
And where was Mike? I missed him and I hope he's not dead. It'd be interesting if he comes back next season looking to avenge Gus' death. His livelihood is basically gone now assuming he's still alive.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2011 11:08:44 GMT -4
I really...didn't love that ending. It did explain how the cigarette went missing...Walt was the only one who knew it was there...but I think it's still unbelievable that Walt knew Jesse would assume Walt did it--and then Walt could use that as an opportunity to get Jesse to commit to taking out Gus. Or, at least, I found it unbelievable. Would have preferred that an accident regarding the kid's health turned into a fortuitous opportunity for Walt to "turn" Jesse and effect the scheme. I do like the fact that season five could start pretty much anywhere now. (Almost) impossible to predict what they'll do to get to the end. I agree. Even if I can buy that Walt knows Jesse well enough to know that poisoning Brock will push him over the edge it still doesn't explain how he got the cigarette and how he got Brock to eat the berries. I guess Huell really did take the cigarette from him when he was patting him down? Huell who has been shown so far to be utterly incompetent all season. Which means Saul was in on it too? And Walt sure was able to come up with that elaborate plan and execute it awfully quickly. I know the point of it was to show that Walt was capable of doing anything but honestly I thought that scene where he sends his elderly neighbor into his house to flush out any bad guys even more cold blooded. Aside from that I did enjoy the episode. It was the little moments like the old lady saying hello to Walt while he was hiding from Tyrus and Saul's secretary shaking down Walt that made it stand out. Agreed it is cool that season five is pretty much wide open. I do think they will have a hard time finding an adversary for Walt as awesome as Gus. |
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Post by kostgard on Oct 10, 2011 21:17:08 GMT -4
According to the show's creator, Huell did lift the cigarettes when he patted Jesse down (and yes, Saul was in on it). I can see that, and I can see how Walt would know that as soon as Jesse heard "poisoned" at the hospital he would look for the cigarette and would blame Walt since he was the only other one who knew about the cigarette (and he probably knew that he could talk Jesse into believing that Gus did it since he's generally pretty good at talking Jesse into things).
But I do want to know how he got Brock to eat the berries. Apparently you have to eat quite a few of them to experience the ill-effects, so I really wonder how that went down.
I think this episode just illustrated how far to the dark side Walt has gone. He sends his neighbor into his house when he knows that Gus's goons could have blown her head off. He poisoned a little kid and just hoped it wasn't enough to kill him (he did look genuinely relieved when he heard that Brock was going to be okay so I don't think it was ever his intention to kill him, but he gambled with that kid's life). He blows up Gus and Tyrus, and then just shoots down two other goons. And his response to all this? "I won." Walt is stone-cold evil.
I also liked Saul's secretary shaking Walt down and how she clearly couldn't stand him and the way he was always barging into the office with some crisis. Nice to see people who see him as an annoying pain in the ass. I was worried about Mike too - I hope he's still alive next season.
I don't know how they are going to top Gus as a villain either. But I was reminded today of the German conglomerate that was bankrolling Gus, and I can't imagine that they are too pleased at this turn of events. Maybe they'll send someone out after Walt.
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Post by Smilla on Oct 11, 2011 11:54:18 GMT -4
Re: topping Gus as the villain--a tiny part of me was hoping that somehow he survived that explosion. I know it's unlikely, but I'm holding out a bit of energy.
I think it's also entirely possible that season five will feature any number of people finding out what Walt's really been up to--including Marie--and all of them conspiring to keep the White family's activities secret from Hank and the DEA. With wildcard Mike in the mix, that could get interesting (Mike knows everything Walt has done.) There's no telling how many people will wind up complicit in Walt's crimes by the end.
Don't forget the people Gus was connected to in Chile. That kept Gus from getting offed by the cartel when they murdered his friend. Whoever those folks were, (Pinochet's friends?) they might have a bone to pick with Walt as well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 0:17:29 GMT -4
Don't forget the people Gus was connected to in Chile. That kept Gus from getting offed by the cartel when they murdered his friend. Whoever those folks were, (Pinochet's friends?) they might have a bone to pick with Walt as well. My theory is that Gus was a CIA asset in Chili and continues to have ties to the seamy underbelly of the American intelligence community. His old patrons from the CIA helped protect him from the DEA and helped arrange things like the Federale raid on one of the Mexican cartels that was causing him trouble. Hank will discover the corrupt protection provided to Gus by his Washington friends at the same time as finding out about Walt's double-life. Hank's problem will be that he can't trust his own people with his knowledge about Walt's true role. |
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Post by Smilla on Oct 13, 2011 14:47:16 GMT -4
Good call. That would explain how Gus has been living so comfortably in the States this whole time.
Yeah, the episode titles are always hilarious. The season three episode in which Skyler confesses her affair with Ted Beneke is called "I.F.T.," which, I'm pretty sure is short for "I fucked Ted," Skyler's last line of the hour.
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