Diana, Princess of Wales (UK)

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I once heard some journalist/commentator/interviewee once say that "every diamond has a flaw" and Diana's nose was hers. Kind of a barfworthy statement, but sort of true nonetheless.

Karrit, can you imagine the field day the press, esp the tabloids, would have had if she had been seen in public with a bruised face? I can't even imagine...

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Diana's former lover a celebrity wrestler.

What an asshole famewhore. Gah, he really should be ashamed. I wonder what William and Harry think about him.

[darlinglilly]

So what about those headlines that she could have been murdered? I missed GMA today, so I'm out of the loop.

I loved Diana. I'm a huge fan. I even get Althorps catologe. But she was a very stupid woman. If I were in her shoes, I would have been glad that hideous man left my bed for Camilla's. But then I ride, so I would have bought beautiful horses, wonderful cars, fabulous clothes and taken plenty of vacays. I would have found love in a million other places. Charles, actually, is incapable of love. The last thing I would have done is divorce the idiot. She was insecure though, and it probably wounded her pride. Gah, that rottie. I really wish she had found a good therapist instead of the alternative people she was dealing with. Diana needed to find a sense of herself, not another man. I still miss her.

[kindred]

DarlingLilly said:

Charles, actually, is incapable of love.

The fact that's he's loved Camilla for several decades now would perhaps count against that opinion. He may not have loved Diana, but it doesn't mean he doesn't love anybody.

She was insecure though, and it probably wounded her pride. Gah, that rottie. I really wish she had found a good therapist instead of the alternative people she was dealing with. Diana needed to find a sense of herself, not another man. I still miss her.

I think she was batshit crazy. And judging by her behaviour as an adult - the endless lovers, the smuggling of men into Kensington Palace in the boot of the car, the high jinks on the high seas with Dodi - she was just hitting her party girl stride. I think, if she'd lived, she would have been an outrageous pain in the Royals' arse, giving slightly off-colour quotes about current events, and constantly agitating for a bigger clothing allowance.

And I don't buy the idea that she'd never have done anything to damage the boys, either. She was a master manipulator, and her behaviour with her lovers was not a great example to set her kids, in my opinion.

I miss her too. She was highly entertaining.

[nuharoo]

I really wish she had found a good therapist

Supposedly the royal family has a history of working with therapists to deal with their problems. In fact, I read that Queen Elizabeth frequently saw a therapist even when in Britain it was considered for lunatics only and looked upon with suspicion. They wanted her to get help, but Diana refused. She saw that if they had a problem with her, then it was their fault, not hers. She simply refused to do admit she had a problem. That is the crux of the situation.

IMO, she would never have done anything to damage Will’s future.

She already did/has. The whole debacle with the Andrew Morton book, the Panorama interview and countless other things literally undermined the stability of the succession. In order to remain stable, the succession should have been left alone. There is no way that Diana's motives were completely pure. Furthermore her actions have driven deeper the question as to whether or not the monarchy will even survive at this point. How will William be king if the monarchy is abolished?

[Mouse]

Had Diana survived, I could see her being a goodwill ambassador for UNICEF, UNESCO, or a similar organization. Perhaps she would've even become a Brooke Astor-type figure, setting up a charitable foundation and sitting on the boards of different organizations.

I could also see her outgrowing her mental problems and maybe even settling into a happy marriage with a man who really loved her.

Sigh...we'll never know, will we?

[Karrit]

So all headlines over here in London are about Diana's supposed affair with JFK, Jr.

Her astrologer is saying that Di and John-John had a night of passion in 1995.

All Diana's friends and Paul Burrell are denying it.

I don't think she did. I think it is one of the following:
1. She was pulling the astrologer's leg and made up the story to have some fun.
2. The astrologer made it up to be able to sell her story.
Or 3. Diana made it up completely and wanted to believe it herself. (I am a huge Di fan, and don't want believe #3, but I have to acknowledge that Di could bring the crazy.)

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I remember reading about this back when both Di and JFK Jr. were alive. I don't think it's true at all, but I do remember reading somewhere that she had a slight crush on him. They were supposed to attend the same event in NYC and JFK didn't go, so I don't think they ever even met. IIRC.

It just sounds like another person is trying to make money off dead Di. Sad.

[lpatrice]

I never liked her. I always thought she was overrated in every sense of the word. And it was sad for her children, family, etc that she died young but she also died stupid, getting into a car with a drunk driver! At 35 she should have known better.

Had she lived, I could totally she her as the type of person who would never deal with her dead marriage and move on. I bet she would have milked that every ounce of sympathy and money she could.

Yes she did some good things, but she was by no means a saint. And honestly I think toward her latter years she was buying into the hype and the Diana could do no wrong school of thought.

May she rest in peace.

[phenobarbara]

They wanted her to get help, but Diana refused.

Their idea of "help" was to hire people who were already calling her sick and unstable, and who were whispering about her and smearing her behind her back. I would refuse help from them, too.

The whole debacle with the Andrew Morton book, the Panorama interview and countless other things literally undermined the stability of the succession.

Charles also did a tell-all interview. In fact, he did it BEFORE Diana's. What does that say about him?

Furthermore her actions have driven deeper the question as to whether or not the monarchy will even survive at this point.

It seems to be doing just fine. I don't understand the argument that Diana's actions ruined the monarchy. How so? They're still there, aren't they? And she's been gone how long? She didn't ruin anything. It takes a whole lot more than the actions of one person to bring down a monarchy that's been in place for centuries upon centuries. I think it's time for people to stop using Diana as a scapegoat. The Windsors do a fine job of embarassing themselves, without having to blame it on a woman who's been dead since 1997. If the monarchy can get past an abdication crisis like in 1936, they sure as heck can get past a tabloid book and interview.