|
|
Post by Witchie on Jan 26, 2018 12:49:30 GMT -4
Harry left the army in 2015, and he's not had a job since other than charity stuff. Not sure what Megan will do, she won't be permitted to act again, I'm guessing. Andrew had a 20-year career in the Navy, so I'm not sure why Harry didn't carry on with the military. Harry didn’t have the education (college) to go any further in the army. He was basically stuck at the level he was at, so he left. No point in standing in the way of others who can & should have those higher ranked positions. He & Meghan will be senior royals and take on charity positions. What else are they supposed to do? Same as W&K, they’ll do what royalty do. Attend meetings, open buildings, etc. |
|
|
|
Post by Mouse on Jan 26, 2018 12:53:21 GMT -4
Both his daughters have definitely benefited from their titles and being part of the Royal family. It's even well documented how Eugenie's first application to her uni was rejected, but once they discovered who she was, they let her in anyways. And yes, out of all Liz's kids Anne seems to be the most non-snobbish. Beatrice and Eugenie's children will be in the same boat as Princess Margaret's kids, David Linley and Sarah Chatto. David and Sarah are the nephew and niece of QEII, but they have no royal titles. They live their lives outside the royal fishbowl and they're married to commoners. David Linley has a furniture business and seems to have done just fine for himself. He and his sister seem to have turned out okay--no scandals or weird rumors. Ultimately, it doesn't matter if Andrew wants titles for his in-laws and future grandchildren. The grandchildren won't be on the royal bandwagon. |
|
|
|
Post by chitowngirl on Jan 26, 2018 14:40:23 GMT -4
David Linley is Viscount Linley. His father got a title when he married Margaret.
|
|
|
|
Post by tabby on Jan 26, 2018 15:04:32 GMT -4
David Linley is Viscount Linley. His father got a title when he married Margaret. And Sarah is styled Lady Sarah Chatto. Margaret's husband, Antony Armstrong-Jones, was made the Earl of Snowden on their marriage. |
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Dec 2, 2024 13:31:12 GMT -4
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 15:29:03 GMT -4
David Linley is Viscount Linley. His father got a title when he married Margaret. And Sarah is styled Lady Sarah Chatto. Margaret's husband, Antony Armstrong-Jones, was made the Earl of Snowden on their marriage. And since Antony passed away David Linley in now 2nd Earl of Snowden, his son Charles is the current Viscount Linley. I suspect Prince Andrew would like a similar Earldom bestowed on his son in law. My understanding if no title for Eugenie and Jack she will be Princess Euginie of York, Mrs Brooksbank. |
|
|
|
Post by Mouse on Jan 26, 2018 15:41:36 GMT -4
David Linley has an aristocratic title, but he doesn't have a royal title. There is no HRH before his name and he isn't a prince of anything. He and Lady Sarah Chatto took their rank from their father, since their mother couldn't pass on the HRH title. They have never performed any royal duties and never been expected to, despite being the Queen's niece and nephew.
|
|
Deleted
Posts: 0
Dec 2, 2024 13:31:12 GMT -4
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 15:42:09 GMT -4
Harry spent 10 years in the Army, and I think he was frustrated that he didn't (or couldn't b/c of who he is, more likely) see more active duty. He doesn't seem like the type who would suit the role of a desk officer. I'd say it's unsaid, but understood, that the Royal Family does what they want with their time. They pick and choose what charities they support, they attend functions that raise money for the charities. They attend lots of functions related to being royal (Order of the Garter, etc), they appear on the BH balcony now and then, and they raise their children. It sometimes seems like Harry chafes against restrictions more than other RF members; he frequently makes mention of "the job", or says things that sound like he thinks he has a job. He once described getting the first Invictus Games going, as "my full time job". Meghan had an active role as a philanthropist before Harry came along, and it will be interesting to see how she lives with the restrictions of being just another partner in Wills, Kate and Harry's foundation.
|
|
|
|
Post by Mugsy on Jan 26, 2018 21:03:23 GMT -4
I'll be honest - the whole title thing seems stupid to me. What does it matter in this day and age? Earl, duke, marquis. Blahblahblah. Other than the immediate royals, big deal. And even then, it's really just a big drain on my Commonwealth. I'm interested in Harry & Meghan's wedding and Kate & Will's kids, and to a lesser degree, Eugenie's wedding, but as a celebrity thing.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ginger on Jan 26, 2018 21:20:16 GMT -4
I'll be honest - the whole title thing seems stupid to me. What does it matter in this day and age? Earl, duke, marquis. Blahblahblah. Other than the immediate royals, big deal. And even then, it's really just a big drain on my Commonwealth. I'm interested in Harry & Meghan's wedding and Kate & Will's kids, and to a lesser degree, Eugenie's wedding, but as a celebrity thing. I think titles matter a LOT in the social circles that Eugenie - and Will, Kate and Harry - travel in, but nowhere else. Jack's grandma gave an interview this week in which she made it sound like Jack would be a frontrunner for Upper Class Twit of the Year. She said one should think less of Eugenie for wanting to marry her grandson. |
|
|
|
Post by Augustus on Jan 27, 2018 7:30:56 GMT -4
And the titles keep their offspring well and truly in the upper classes of the UK, which may not mean much outside UK, but they still informally matter quite a lot. It doesn't even necessarily matter whether or not they're wealthy - most of the upper-class are indeed 'ordinary' working people, not to mention ancestral homes have bankrupted quite a few - it's all about ancestry and simply being part of the landed gentry.
It means a particular network you're not privy off, certain opportunities you won't get presented simply because of your family. Or more lack thereof. So it has nothing to do with the royal titles themselves, only a few do (unless you're German with those countless of small historic principalities) but more of the connections the titles lend themselves to.
ETA How could I forget the House of Lords? Where some people are automatically part of by simply being born in the right family and your seat is a hereditary peer.
|
|
