sunpoppy
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Post by sunpoppy on Sept 27, 2008 16:55:56 GMT -4
I've been a phantom on these boards for quite a while, and I haven't seen any discussions about this fascinating pair. Am I too late?  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2008 13:57:47 GMT -4
You aren't too late, I don't think there ever was thread on these two.
I once read that the real reason Parliment wanted him out wasn't so much Wallis, but Edward's Nazi leanings. I don't know how much truth there is in that.
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Post by azaleaqueen on Sept 29, 2008 15:16:52 GMT -4
BrokenOx, I think there is quite a bit of truth to that rumor. Parliament had come to the conclusion that if Edward stayed on the throne, there was no way England could withstand a Nazi invasion. And I think Wallis was good buddies with a high-ranking Nazi named Joachim von Ribbentrop. I know that the two fo them visited Nazi Germany and called on Hitler. Also, they were married in France at the home of a French Nazi sympathizer.
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Post by ennui on Sept 29, 2008 18:33:55 GMT -4
Also, they were married in France at the home of a French Nazi sympathizer. I think David and Wallis were essentially exiled once he abdicated. Didn't they live the rest of their lives abroad? I thought I read somewhere that he only returned to England a couple of times, and then it was after several years had passed. I could be wrong. Regarding the Nazi thing, I've always heard that we owe Wallis a debt of gratitude (as luck would have it). |
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Post by Peggy Lane on Sept 29, 2008 20:10:11 GMT -4
Even David's father didn't think he should be king. He wanted his throne to go to "Bertie and Lillibet." Good call on Lillibet, as Elizabeth has been a pretty good queen during a really rough period for royals and her father, who had many weaknesses, and mother were good figureheads during the war.
Isn't it interesting that Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother was always so bitter toward Davide and Wallis? I mean, the woman obviously adored being queen, far more then Queen Elizabeth II probably does. And yet she HATED them until their dying days.
I always find the Duke and Duchess both fascinating and off-putting. It's such melodrama that even the (pretty fantastic) mini-series about them didn't do them justice.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2008 11:40:06 GMT -4
Isn't it interesting that Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother was always so bitter toward Davide and Wallis? I mean, the woman obviously adored being queen, far more then Queen Elizabeth II probably does. And yet she HATED them until their dying days. Didn't she hate them because she blamed them for Bertie's relativley early death? She thought that the stress of the war and being King contributed to his early demise. Had the King lived longer, maybe she would have lightened up a bit. She did love being Queen, she loved it so much she was called Queen twice!  |
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Post by Metizia on Sept 30, 2008 12:54:24 GMT -4
I have a book (that I've barely skimmed through) called " Royal Feud" and it says that The Queen Mother was envious of Wallis because she had a crush on Edward. It also says that the opposition to the marriage of Wallis and Eward not because Wallis was divorced but because she was born out of wedlock. |
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Post by Auroranorth on Sept 30, 2008 14:06:09 GMT -4
I have a book (that I've barely skimmed through) called " Royal Feud" and it says that The Queen Mother was envious of Wallis because she had a crush on Edward. It also says that the opposition to the marriage of Wallis and Eward not because Wallis was divorced but because she was born out of wedlock. Her birthdate is obscured, IRRC. However, I think the two divorces were the dominant factor. the King is head of the Church of England and marriage of divorced people is forbidden. That's why Charles had to remarry in a civil ceremony and Anne went to Scotland for her second marriage. In those days, having the future king marry in a civil ceremony would have been totally taboo. Also, England has no tradition of morganatic marriage. I've heard the Elizabeth had a crush rumor too and I believe it. Edward was a catch in his youth- Bertie was a stammering, shy goof, by all accounts. |
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Post by sunpoppy on Sept 30, 2008 17:03:12 GMT -4
I apologize for doing a really stupid thing. I started this topic, and I wish to participate because I enjoy discussing the DD Windsors, but I am in the process of arranging to move 1500 miles from where I now live. This move entails making hard decisions about what I have saved (okay, hoarded) and what should be donated or pitched. Thus, until after mid-November, I won't be able to participate as much as I'd like. To make up for this, I offer you this loony blog I found. My name for it is: 'God revealed my real parents are the Duke and Duchess of Windsor, and I can prove it.' |
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Post by Auroranorth on Oct 1, 2008 7:54:09 GMT -4
Ah, yes. Miss My Parents Were Married After My Birth So I'm Queen. Sorry, lady. Even if it's true, you still wouldn't be queen. You'd be the illegitimate daughter of an abdicated ruler. He might have been able to legitimate you after he became king, but he didn't, so you're screwed. Even if he had legitimated you, you'd probably be barred from the throne anyway. That's what happened with John of Gaunt's kids. And a more example is the 7th Earl of Harewood's son Mark Lascelles. His parents married after his father's divorce from his first wife, two years after his birth. He was not legitimated by his parent's marriage, and is not in line for the throne (if he were, he'd be 41st in line to the throne, I believe) or for the earldom.
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