Queen Elizabeth II

[Ladybug]

Nextlix’s climate advisory board agrees

Climate experts from Netflix have complained to the streaming giant after it aired a trailer for Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's docu-series on the eve of Prince William's Earthshot Prize awards. The timing of the trailer's release has been seen by some as provocative given the importance of the event, which sees £1million awarded to projects aimed at saving the planet.

Members of Netflix's scientific advisory group have complained to the company about the trailer, according to The Sunday Times.

Former UN climate chief Christiana Figueres, who sits on Netflix's advisory group and chairs the Earthshot board, said she felt disappointed.

The same publication reports Ms Figueres, who played a key role in the 2015 Paris climate agreement, as saying: "Netflix has been a leader on producing valuable content to educate on environmental issues. It is therefore disappointing that they air negative messages on the very same day as the Earthshot Prize."

Former UN political strategist Tom Rivett-Carnac, who sits on Netflix's advisory group and advises the Earthshot team, complained to the streaming service's leadership.

He said: "The remarkable finalists and winners of the Earthshot Prize are changing the world. They deserve all attention and recognition so the timing of this release from Netflix, a sustainability content leader, is profoundly disappointing."

The full story appears in The Times, but I’m not able to find the archive link on my phone.

[tiggertoo]

Wow, good for them! How nice it would be if H&M agreed and put a statement. Just as they always wanted the palace to put out statements about them.

Chances of that happening?

[Ninja Bunny]

Dec 4, 2022 11:37:21 GMT -4 Ginger said:

Jun 9, 2007 10:03:44 GMT -4 hellsbells said:

ut on the face of it, if the great grand isn't willing to take a photo with the baby, it would feel to them like they weren't a priority in the family.....

You can't divorce this incident from the 3-5 years of history that led up to it. At this point, the Queen had been burned at least a dozen times by Harry and Meghan taking private interactions with her (private meetings, phone calls, Zoom calls, waffle maker gifts) and running to tell the media in an attempt to demonstrate how much they were in her good graces.

By the time Harry and Meghan officially announced that the she had personally approved the name "Lilibet", the Queen finally made it known through a reputable source (the BBC) that she had done no such thing, and was fed up with them using her name in that way. The Queen felt it should be up to her to announce what she had and had not approved of, per the article. She basically said, "Harry and Meghan, keep my name out of your f---ing mouths."

By all accounts, the Queen was very happy to meet her great-granddaughter for the first time. She didn't use the bloodshot eye as an excuse not to see them, just as an excuse not to pose for professional photos taken by their photographer Chris Allerton for copyright owners Harry and Meghan to utilize as PR in their various multimedia deals. That's a whole other matter.

Interacting with Harry and Meghan as family members should not require anyone to submit to being publicly exploited, but I think that's the situation the whole family has been in with them for a while. With the Queen, they wanted her imprimatur. With Charles, William and Kate, they want more "receipts". I think it's difficult to justify blaming any of them for protecting themselves.

Once upon a time, everyone was sympathizing with Meghan because if she picked the phone to call her rogue father, it was very likely that he'd tell the media about it word for word, if not record the conversation. Meghan and Harry have had his family in the exact same position since at least 2019 at this point.

What’s really sad is that unless one of the Queen’s staffers discreetly snapped a photo or rolled video, there’s no photo at all of her with Lilibet. Lilibet has been robbed of ever seeing her great grandmother meet and hold her, all because her parents are greedy, selfish assholes.

[canuckcutie]

Yeah I’m guessing no photos of Lili with QEII exist at all. If Harry & Meghan weren’t allowed to take a pic of the two of them using their go to photographer, no way in hell would they be letting anyone else snap a pic. Honestly given her advancing age and health issues, they really, really did a piss poor job of squeezing in any quality time with Harry’s beloved grandma.

I can’t even imagine what her reaction would be to Spare.

[luckylexie]

Jan 17, 2023 22:57:22 GMT -4 canuckcutie said:

Honestly given her advancing age and health issues, they really, really did a piss poor job of squeezing in any quality time with Harry’s beloved grandma.

It really highlights their selfishness.

[gremlin45]

Jan 17, 2023 22:57:22 GMT -4 canuckcutie said:

Yeah I’m guessing no photos of Lili with QEII exist at all. If Harry & Meghan weren’t allowed to take a pic of the two of them using their go to photographer, no way in hell would they be letting anyone else snap a pic. Honestly given her advancing age and health issues, they really, really did a piss poor job of squeezing in any quality time with Harry’s beloved grandma.

I can’t even imagine what her reaction would be to Spare.

I should think it would be near to total disgust, followed by a deep concern for Harry's mental health.

[featherhat]

Originally the story was that HM had agreed to a photo but only if taken by one of her staff/family/photographers so that Meghan and Harry couldn't use it to exploit her, for commercial gain (can you imagine the "Lilibet Meets Lilibet" children's "book"? ) or to claim she approves of everything they do. She wanted to ensure it would be a private family thing.

If they refused a photo under those circumstances then that is on them and shows their ulterior motives. Harry and Meghan are the ones who want/need to capitalise commercially off moments like these so if HM in turn declined to be photographed by Misha Harriman and giving the control of the photo to the Sussexes, her point is more understandable because one would have meant the photo was used to make money and exploit her whilst trashing the thing she spent her life serving and the other would simply be a private family photo.

We have seen practically every other senior royal showing off lovely family pictures in the last couple of years, mostly taken by each other and shared for free as part of the public and private mourning process (and yes carefully chosen to showcase themselves in the best light I'm sure) but it's a world away from documenting everything 24/7 for sale to the highest bidder/best revenge fodder as the Sussexes have done.

Lets not forget that Harry and Meghan publicly declined a personal invite just 2 weeks before she died. None of this is about her as granny or great granny, it's about her as Queen.

[royalwave]

I'm sure the family is very glad that QEII didn't have to deal with the fallout from Spare. It's hard to imagine that Harry was originally planning to release this while she was still living. For someone who claimed such a closeness and affinity with his grandmother, that would have been quite a cruel thing to do to a very old woman in declining health. He just really doesn't care about anyone's feelings other than his own, and his ability to capitalize on his "birthright."

Archie and Lili were really too little to have any memories of the Queen, but I do feel a bit sorry for them that their parents botched any chance at them having at least a photographic legacy for their personal collection. Makes me wonder if there are even any photos of Lili with Charles. I suppose they didn't care as much about that since there's no namesake angle, but you'd think now that he's the King it might become more of a priority. The kids really are missing out on these relationships. Charles seems like a pretty good grandfather.

[Ladybug]

Here's how Harry describes asking the Queen for permission to propose to Meghan

“This moment was either the start of my life or the end,” he says. “It would all come down to the words I chose, how I delivered them and how granny heard them. I needed to get to it without one more second of hesitation. I saw her waiting for me to speak, and not waiting patiently. Her expression screamed: ‘Out with it.'” Finally, the Duke of Sussex said, “Granny, you already know that I love Meg a lot, and I have decided that I’d like to ask her to marry me, and they’ve told me that… Well…. I have to get your authorization before asking for her hand.” The Queen replied, “You have to do that?” “Yes,” Prince Harry said, “That’s what your people have said and mine too.” After what the royal describes as an “agonizingly long pause,” the Queen replied, “Well then I suppose I have to say yes.”

“She felt she had to say yes? Did that mean that she was saying yes, but wanted to say no?” writes the royal. “I didn’t understand. Was she being sarcastic? Ironic? Deliberately cryptic? Was she allowing herself a bit of wordplay? I don’t remember my grandmother being a fan of wordplay and this would have been the strangest time to start being one (without mentioning tremendously inappropriate).”

You are the only one who's confused about her meaning, Harry.

[Auroranorth]

I'm not buying how Harry claims that went down. I'm quite sure she knew he needed to ask her permission, which I'm guessing is pretty much a formality at this point. He's trying to turn it into something weird.