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Post by LurkerNan on Nov 15, 2012 16:05:41 GMT -4
That's really interesting. And I think that rule also applies to women. Who's "America's Sweetheart" right now? I'm probably missing something since I'm not into that genre, but I feel like there really hasn't been much going on with romantic comedies lately. And it feels like the more recent Blockbuster action flicks have been all about ensemble casts (MI:4, Avengers, X-Men, Batman, etc). Interesting. I wonder if we're moving away from big Hollywood stars (do studios want to pay for them if they don't rake in cash like they used to?) and more towards groups of actors who don't open films per se, but are have other strengths (they're solid actors who turn in good to great performances). I could see the "star driven" system being replaced by ensemble casts cultivated by chosen producers. We see it now with the Depp/Burton collaboration, or how Joss Whedon tends to work with the same actors over & over again. Maybe not the old studio system, but a modified version of such. Seems to me that the influx of reality personalities turning into celebrities has really altered who we call a star. And I also was wondering why Daniel Craig wasn't heading that list. |
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Post by luthia on Nov 15, 2012 16:09:41 GMT -4
But it used to be only major stars - established leading men that women of all ages would agree were sexy: Mel Gibson, Denzel Washington, Tom Cruise v.1.0, Sean Connery, Patrick Swayze. I can guarantee my mother has no idea who Channing Tatum is. My sister might not even know who he is and she reads US Weekly religiously. He's more like the winner of a Tiger Beat reader's poll. Agreed. I like Channing Tatum just fine, he's certainly attractive enough and he's been good in what I've seen him in. But my mom had no idea who he was until I said "the guy in The Vow." And Bradley Cooper last year? She still has no idea who he is. I think the problem is that there really aren't any established leading men that all ages find attractive, because there really aren't any huge heavy hitter leading men anymore. Yes, which is why he is a box office star and many people don't realize this. The fact that a lot of people don't know who Channing is speaks to the inability of the studio system to create superstars these days. Entertainment Weekly did a great story on the dwindling number of real movie stars a few years ago and they had Tom Cruise on the cover. They discussed how "the movie star" as we know it is a thing of the past and how difficult it has been to create superstars like Tom Cruise. There were numerous leading men to choose from in the past to put on the cover of the Sexiest Man Alive issue, including Pitt, Clooney, Swayze, Denzel and on and on. All of these men are now in their 40s and 50s and have yet to be replaced by the younger breed. It is interesting that all of those actors are still working in high profile movies and getting Oscar nominations. I guess it affirms that they were and are really superstars. The industry tried the generate excitement with Affleck, Josh Hartnett and other young leads, but they haven't really stuck (except for Affleck, who is getting respect as a director). Channing is one in a long line of leading men with all the right stuff whose popularity will probably wane in a few years. While I think he is sexy and a good choice for Sexiest Man Alive, I know that his success probably will not last and the industry will turn to another young, hot guy. The only difference between Channing and many of the other pretty boy actors who became famous and then died out is that Channing also produces. It is the same thing with female actresses. The industry keeps trying to push certain young actresses in our faces, but none of them have really stuck. They may have a hit with one movie, then the media goes crazy over them. When they follow the hit movie with a flop (which always happens), the industry turns to the next young woman. I remember around 10 years ago, the industry was pushing Julia Stiles, Kate Hudson and Erika Christiansen. Only Kate remained a kind of star, although most of her movies have flopped. I think the movie industry has become like the music industry. Very little time is spent on nurturing young actors and actresses. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2012 17:21:08 GMT -4
I've never watched a single Bond movie, and to me Daniel Craig is the male equivalent of butterface. He does absolutely nothing for me. He's a fine actor and he has a nice ass, but otherwise I've yet to see the supposed hotness with him. Dude has a serious case of potato face. I doubt I'm the only one who feels that way.
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Post by Ginger on Nov 15, 2012 17:39:22 GMT -4
I felt this exact same way until about a year ago. Then I rented Casino Royale on a lark. And Oh. My. God. Daniel Craig in that role is unbelievably, epically sexy. It's not something you'd ever understand by looking at still photos of him. (I highly recommend the movie too, not as a Bond movie, just as a really good movie in general. I still have no interest in seeing any of the non-Craig Bond movies.)
Anyway, even if I didn't personally dig Daniel Craig, I still think he's occupying a place much higher up on the famous/sexy man totem pole than Channing Tatum.
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Post by iClaudia on Nov 15, 2012 18:47:07 GMT -4
Yes, which is why he is a box office star and many people don't realize this. The fact that a lot of people don't know who Channing is speaks to the inability of the studio system to create superstars these days. Entertainment Weekly did a great story on the dwindling number of real movie stars a few years ago and they had Tom Cruise on the cover. They discussed how "the movie star" as we know it is a thing of the past and how difficult it has been to create superstars like Tom Cruise. <snip> remember around 10 years ago, the industry was pushing Julia Stiles, Kate Hudson and Erika Christiansen. Only Kate remained a kind of star, although most of her movies have flopped. I think the movie industry has become like the music industry. Very little time is spent on nurturing young actors and actresses. What the industry no longer really has is megastars who become household names after a "big break" that plucks them from toiling in obscurity. The actors plugging away and climbing the ladder seem to end up in TV or doing indies rather than the kind of mainstream films that result in true stardom. Nowadays, Hollywood finds young actors who seem to have all the right ingredients and cast them in films that seem to have all the right ingredients and assume they can manufacture lightning in a bottle as opposed to having it happen organically. |
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Post by ladyjane on Nov 15, 2012 20:08:45 GMT -4
Yes, which is why he is a box office star and many people don't realize this. The fact that a lot of people don't know who Channing is speaks to the inability of the studio system to create superstars these days. Entertainment Weekly did a great story on the dwindling number of real movie stars a few years ago and they had Tom Cruise on the cover. They discussed how "the movie star" as we know it is a thing of the past and how difficult it has been to create superstars like Tom Cruise. <snip> remember around 10 years ago, the industry was pushing Julia Stiles, Kate Hudson and Erika Christiansen. Only Kate remained a kind of star, although most of her movies have flopped. I think the movie industry has become like the music industry. Very little time is spent on nurturing young actors and actresses. What the industry no longer really has is megastars who become household names after a "big break" that plucks them from toiling in obscurity. The actors plugging away and climbing the ladder seem to end up in TV or doing indies rather than the kind of mainstream films that result in true stardom. Nowadays, Hollywood finds young actors who seem to have all the right ingredients and cast them in films that seem to have all the right ingredients and assume they can manufacture lightning in a bottle as opposed to having it happen organically. This. It's all become very formulaic because the studios are trying to find themselves a sure thing. But that's not how public sentiment works. The industry is entirely focussed on the business of making money. While I understand that movie-making is a business, the current process isn't conducive to producing new stars; it's trying to replicate the chemistry of people who are already stars and that just isn't going to work. Honestly, I can't tell the difference between most of the young, blonde actresses today. I need to look at photo captions to know which one it is. They either look alike or have had plastic surgery to fit that mould and few of them have stand-out talent. |
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Post by carrier76 on Nov 16, 2012 0:01:46 GMT -4
You're not the only one. "Potato face" is a pretty good descriptor.
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Post by chonies on Nov 16, 2012 0:13:41 GMT -4
You're not the only one. "Potato face" is a pretty good descriptor. I put it in the Daniel Craig thread, but I was ehh on him before Skyfall (I haven't seen Casino Royale yet). After Skyfall, I'm a total fan girl, so I looked up some of his other things on Netflix. Way disappointing. |
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Post by GoldenFleece on Nov 16, 2012 0:45:42 GMT -4
The major problem with Sexiest Man Alive now is that the field of contenders for the title only seems to consist of white movie actors. One year they went with Denzel and I remember hearing that the People editors were shocked by some of the mail they got about it and maybe they'd rather not go the "controversial" route again, though I think naming an openly gay guy as SMA would really get people talking. Some people would love it and others would hate it but it would save the whole SMA thing from being so shrugworthy like it is now. Of course it was never important in the grand scheme of things but now it feels a lot like Miss America or Idol, where winning is not really what it used to be.
They've gone with TV guys in the past and it's surprising they never gave the crown to McDreamy at some point in the late 2000s. I think if Prince William hadn't been dealt a receding hairline that maybe he would be looked at the way JFK, Jr. was and People would've gone outside the acting world to name him SMA one year. Basically, I think People needs to move past thinking the title has to go to a white movie star. Name a TV actor, an athlete, a singer (though not Bieber! But Timberlake in 2007 would've been a reasonable choice), a famous minority in any profession...just a different type of guy for a change.
I do like Channing, though, and don't think he's a bad choice as far as these things go.
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Post by mochakitty on Jun 2, 2013 13:16:47 GMT -4
They had their baby. No word on the gender yet. |
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