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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2013 15:15:47 GMT -4
I had no idea it was coming and I was more annoyed than sad. It was pretty unoriginal after Sybil's death.
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chingaza
Lady in Waiting
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Jan 9, 2006 15:12:39 GMT -4
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Post by chingaza on Feb 19, 2013 15:39:59 GMT -4
I am annoyed too...really, every birth has to be marred by tragedy? I was spoiled for a death (didn't know whose) and worried it was going to be a stillbirth. And yes the blood oozing down his face was particularly gross. I guess they wanted to make it clear there won't be any chance of him just being injured.
I wonder if they are going to have Branson and Cousin Oliver-Rose hook up next season...that would be a tidy solution to the Rose problem since it looks like there won't be a dowry to help marry her off. I'm just glad he didn't go any further with the fired house maid. She was annoyingly forward.
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Post by Sunnyhorse on Feb 19, 2013 15:43:50 GMT -4
Oh man, I hope not. We haven't seen the Christmas ep yet (our DVR got a little befuddled when The Amazing Race ran late, but it'll catch the rerun tonight), so I don't know whether Rose improves any, but what I've seen of her so far makes me want to slap her. Branson's way too good for her.
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Post by Ninja Bunny on Feb 19, 2013 17:13:55 GMT -4
The one guy who could mitigate Robert's idiocy is dead. Can't wait for next season when he loses everything to a Ponzi scheme or something.
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Post by Sunnyhorse on Feb 20, 2013 0:06:24 GMT -4
OK, we just watched. Rose did indeed get better. Now that you've unloaded your daughter, Susan, why don't you take O'Brien with you to India so you can be sour old bitches together? I know we were supposed to feel for Susan a bit, but holy cow what an unpleasant woman.
I swear, Julian Fellowes did everything but airdrop an anvil onto every Downton-watching household. I can't count how many times we dragged our fingers across our throats and yelled, "Because you'll/he'll be DEAD!" every time we got more Matthew foreshadowing. At least seeing Shrimpy's plight has been enough to convince Lord Grantham that Matthew was right about conserving money.
Every time I watch an episode, I love Mrs. Hughes a little more. Her scene with Branson -- er, Mr. Branson -- was lovely (and he does cry really well). MyAnna Buring plays "on the make" beautifully, both here and on Ripper Street.
Carson with little Sybbie was the cutest thing ever.
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Post by kostgard on Feb 20, 2013 2:26:15 GMT -4
When the estate eventually crumbles, Carson needs to open a daycare center. That was absolutely adorable.
Shrimpy and Susan's crap marriage did make me feel bad for Cousin Oliver, but I'm still not sure how I'll feel about her next season.
But I don't want O'Brien to go to India with the Shrimpy clan - we need her evil scheming back at Downton now that Thomas' hard, bitchy candy shell is melting away a bit to revel his soft gooey center and poor, sad, little lonely heart. Thomas actually volunteered to run an errand for Mrs. Patmore and offered to buy everyone a pop at the fair. Season one or two Thomas would sooner put his cigarette out in his eye than do something for someone else. Besides, O'Brien was always far more success at scheming than Thomas and we need the evil plans to actually land. And I want to see how Thomas lords the soap story over her.
Ah, it was fun, Downton. You actually got me to like you again. I'm gonna start counting down to the Brienne/Jaime show next month and I'll see you in the fall (I may actually steal you this time instead of waiting for PBS).
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Post by Ladybug on Feb 20, 2013 11:26:38 GMT -4
Matthew's death was just sloppy. Hints dropped throughout the episode, schmaltzy final scene with Mary and baby, speeding car, then WHAMMO! he's dead with extra blood just so everyone will be sure. I know Dan Stevens didn't want to come back even for one season 4 episode, but he deserved a better send off than that.
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Post by smitten on Feb 20, 2013 11:50:25 GMT -4
Why didn't he want to come back anyway?
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Post by kostgard on Feb 20, 2013 12:42:35 GMT -4
I think Stevens just wanted to do different things. And honestly it makes sense - DA isn't going to make his career any hotter than it is now. And this poor dude got saddled with some of the absolute worst story lines on this show, so there was no point in him staying and being subjected to more ridiculous stuff if it isn't going to help his career any further and he's no longer happy doing. It seems kind harsh that he didn't even want to do one or two episodes next season so there could be a happy Christmas special, but maybe he needed a clean break.
The death could have been handled better, but it's really par for course with the rest of Matthew's story lines.
And I'm still totally okay with him going. It seems like he's served his purpose, and he's even become less of the middle class outsider as he married into the family and started acting like the future Earl. And I think Mary will be more interesting when she's not happily married.
Honestly, Branson could bring most of the stuff that Matthew brought to the table and then some. Just expand his character a bit and it will work.
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mementomori
Landed Gentry
Leaning Into Impermanence
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Feb 3, 2013 0:34:44 GMT -4
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Post by mementomori on Feb 20, 2013 20:23:35 GMT -4
Honestly, Branson could bring most of the stuff that Matthew brought to the table and then some. Just expand his character a bit and it will work. Kostgard sing it from the rafters! Dan Stevens/Matthew Crawley is milquetoast. Never a compelling moment with him imo. Branson is so much sexier and more intense that I hope Allan Leech gets all the best storylines next season.
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