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Post by gitsie007 on Dec 19, 2011 3:15:23 GMT -4
Well, Mavis and Matt did get get together but I noticed that the next morning, as she woke up, his arm was across her, the same way she woke up that other guy she hooked up with earlier in the movie, right before she decided to leave. She does not love Matt so she was leaving him.
I liked that end scene with his sister totally kissing Mavis's ass and wanting to go back Minneapolis with her. Mavis told her to stay put, as if hinting they were not exactly friends.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2011 17:04:32 GMT -4
I know gitsie, and I understand what they were going for there, but it's still one of those movie double-standards that irritates me. It would be different if they ever had a movie where a gorgeous guy hooks up with a fat, unattractive girl, but we both know that will never happen. I think it would have been more interesting if Mavis hooked up with Matt's sister, who was clearly in love with her. And I would have liked not even necessarily a standard "happy" ending for Matt but maybe something like him starting up a business selling his liquor or weird action figures, possibly even with the help of Mavis as a partner and the two of them actually forming a lasting, real friendship; or Matt having a budding romance/flirtation with the lead singer of Beth's band.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2011 21:27:14 GMT -4
I know gitsie, and I understand what they were going for there, but it's still one of those movie double-standards that irritates me. It would be different if they ever had a movie where a gorgeous guy hooks up with a fat, unattractive girl, but we both know that will never happen. I think it would have been more interesting if Mavis hooked up with Matt's sister, who was clearly in love with her. And I would have liked not even necessarily a standard "happy" ending for Matt but maybe something like him starting up a business selling his liquor or weird action figures, possibly even with the help of Mavis as a partner and the two of them actually forming a lasting, real friendship; or Matt having a budding romance/flirtation with the lead singer of Beth's band.I agree with this. I felt so bad for Matt. Mavis clearly never had any intention of having any kind of relationship with him, and she skips town before he even wakes up. I wanted some kind of happy ending for Matt.
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Post by bitca on Dec 31, 2011 23:01:54 GMT -4
Saw this yesterday with my BFF. It was so, so bad. When we got out we were like, "FML. Why did we pay money to see this?" haha. We were both bored as hell, aside from the baby naming party. Holy fuck balls, Elizabeth Reaser has a huge forehead.
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Post by Hamatron on Jan 1, 2012 0:02:57 GMT -4
Yeah. I agree. I saw this with my parents. My mom liked it, my Dad didn't get it, and I thought it was freaking boring. There wasn't enough happening or something. Also, the... writing? Directing? Something about it was not engaging. I just felt like there was nothing there and none of the people were engaging. A lot of the emotional moments of the story felt so forced and cliche. Eh.
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Post by Margo on Jan 1, 2012 1:16:54 GMT -4
I liked it a lot, more than Juno.
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Post by forever1267 on Jan 1, 2012 23:56:28 GMT -4
I liked it, and Charlize and Patton are fantastic, but that ending confused me. It seemed to say that one is a much better person as long as they are living in the city. Mavis didn't really seem to learn anything and was right where she started in the beginning. Also, either the projector at the theater I was at was running low, or this is a vERY gray movie. Completely muted color palatte.
Depressing, yet some very very funny moments.
Forgot to mention that it's kind of like the Independent Bitchier version of My Best Friend's Wedding without the gloss and hi-jinks.
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Post by Hamatron on Jan 3, 2012 1:57:44 GMT -4
Yeah. I think you just sort of nailed what was wrong with the movie (for me). Nothing was at stake. There's no character arch. We're not watching someone change... they could jump forward 10 years and show Mavis doing her thing for two hours and it would be the same movie. I don't need to like the main character to enjoy a movie. I don't need them to be redeemed. But I do need to watch something shift. To not have that is a fatal flaw as it's a necessity in storytelling.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2012 11:31:33 GMT -4
I disagree, I took this as more of a slice-of-life sort of movie. People can and do change but not everyone does. Not everyone learns something from their mistakes, and the movie felt more real to me because she didn't change and there were no stakes. That's just life. Not everything we do has huge consequences, most of the time things just...are.
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Post by Hamatron on Jan 3, 2012 20:49:38 GMT -4
Yeah, that makes sense. I guess what I am saying is that watching a slice of Mavis's life was boring to me. I generally enjoy alcoholics on a bender of trainwreckiness stories, but for whatever reason this flick didn't do it for me. I was ready for it to end 30 minutes in.
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