Kathy Griffin

[Ginger]

The media was very, very interested in what Anderson had to say about it, so I think his tweet was more than justified. I can see that it doesn't make him a good friend to tweet his condemnation without also talking to her privately about it. But I guess I just never thought of their friendship as a real, actual friendship. They work together and text each other (which Kathy routinely makes public) but I think that's it.

I don't think Kathy has any genuine friendships in her life. She seems to latch on to other celebrities, but all of those relationships are temporary and superficial and many of them end acrimoniously. I don't recall in any of Kathy's TV shows or books where she mentions having a real BFF.

[Deleted]

He knows that if he had contacted her, there was a good chance she wouldn't keep it secret, and it could have destroyed his career too if that came out.

I've wondered if that's actually true when it comes to Kathy and her famous friends. She seems to have managed to keep long-term friendships with some of them, which makes me think she promises to keep certain things about them out of her act and keeps those promises (Cher comes to mind). It couldn't have been that hard for Anderson to make it clear to her that she can't boast publicly about his private support. She's not stupid when it comes to business after all. But I could be wrong. Has she had any bad break-ups with close famous friends due to her spilling the beans about something she shouldn't have?

[Ginger]

Aug 29, 2017 11:37:36 GMT -4 @highondegrassi said:

Has she had any bad break-ups with close famous friends due to her spilling the beans about something she shouldn't have?

She was very close at one point to Brooke Shields. Brooke was matron of honor at her wedding (her only bridesmaid IIRC). And then she told all about Brooke's wedding in her standup routine, including Brooke's mother being off the wagon and calling the groom's mother the c-word, making fun of the host of the wedding, and making fun of the folk group who sang at the reception. That was the end of her friendship with Brooke. The stories were absolutely hilarious, but I don't blame Brooke one bit for being upset about it.

I haven't heard of her other celebrity friendships breaking up, but they seem like superficial friendships, and she talks about them constantly in public. I would guess that for every time Kathy actually hangs out with Cher or Sharon Stone, she turns it into a story. The Cut interview is a pretty good example of Kathy giving the rundown on how every single celebrity she knows responded to her about the scandal.

When Kathy was asked at her press conference about whether she'd heard from Anderson Cooper, Kathy was able to answer honestly and say she hadn't heard from him. Even if she had just answered, "Yes, I have spoken to him and he's been very supportive" the press would have taken that as a contradiction of Anderson's tweet and declared him to be on her side.

I still think it was smart on his side to think about his own career and reputation first and say nothing to her. He was protecting himself and the price is that he lost a work pal. Oh well. It's necessary sometimes.

[Neurochick]

Aug 29, 2017 14:11:35 GMT -4 Ginger said:

Aug 29, 2017 11:37:36 GMT -4 @highondegrassi said:

Has she had any bad break-ups with close famous friends due to her spilling the beans about something she shouldn't have?

She was very close at one point to Brooke Shields. Brooke was matron of honor at her wedding (her only bridesmaid IIRC). And then she told all about Brooke's wedding in her standup routine, including Brooke's mother being off the wagon and calling the groom's mother the c-word, making fun of the host of the wedding, and making fun of the folk group who sang at the reception. That was the end of her friendship with Brooke. The stories were absolutely hilarious, but I don't blame Brooke one bit for being upset about it.

I haven't heard of her other celebrity friendships breaking up, but they seem like superficial friendships, and she talks about them constantly in public. I would guess that for every time Kathy actually hangs out with Cher or Sharon Stone, she turns it into a story. The Cut interview is a pretty good example of Kathy giving the rundown on how every single celebrity she knows responded to her about the scandal.

When Kathy was asked at her press conference about whether she'd heard from Anderson Cooper, Kathy was able to answer honestly and say she hadn't heard from him. Even if she had just answered, "Yes, I have spoken to him and he's been very supportive" the press would have taken that as a contradiction of Anderson's tweet and declared him to be on her side.

I still think it was smart on his side to think about his own career and reputation first and say nothing to her. He was protecting himself and the price is that he lost a work pal. Oh well. It's necessary sometimes.

I think Kathy Griffin's problem is that she, like so many on reality TV, doesn't know when to quit pushing the envelope, and trying to be more outrageous than the last person. Maybe she felt people weren't talking about her anymore and wanted to do something that would get her name out there. I was having a discussion with some people about what she did with the Trump-head. Some people were like, "so fucking what, this president is a fascist, who cares about him?" Others said it wasn't really about Trump, but about the office of the presidency and what she did was in poor taste. I feel both ways, it was in poor taste, she shouldn't have done it; however it doesn't make the president any less of a jack-hole.

[Princessfarquad]

Has anyone seen this? link
It seems Kathy is retracting her apology.

I wish she would have just stood by what she did in the first place and not pretended to be sorry for it.

[Ginger]

So let me get this straight. Kathy wasn't sorry when she put the picture out and various people warned her that it crossed the line. Then there was a backlash and she was so, so sorry you guys. And then there was more backlash so she was yeah sorry, but more sorry that she was being victimized by Trump's tweet. Now her comeback tour message is not sorry.

So will be there be a clarification tomorrow that yes, she's sorry, but no not really?

[Spinderella]

Aug 31, 2017 21:43:46 GMT -4 Ginger said:

So let me get this straight. Kathy wasn't sorry when she put the picture out and various people warned her that it crossed the line. Then there was a backlash and she was so, so sorry you guys. And then there was more backlash so she was yeah sorry, but more sorry that she was being victimized by Trump's tweet. Now her comeback tour message is not sorry.

So will be there be a clarification tomorrow that yes, she's sorry, but no not really?

Ding!Ding!

I mean, just stand behind your whole message. You can say, "My intentions were not to offend the masses, but to make a artistic point. I will still stand by my original statement."

When she was investigated by the Secret Service, she could have said, "I'm sorry if Trump's youngest child was fearful that this was of his actual father, as that was clearly not my intention. But I still stand by my original statement."

And the fact that she's launching a world tour where the world hates Trump and supports her is very telling. No wonder she's like, "Sorry, not sorry."

I feel like you can be apologetic to a specific cause/party if there is good faith that it caused harm to them (not that I believe Barron saw this, but whatever.) But to go full tears and sobbing on TV and then act all smug later, it's ridic.

[LurkerNan]

It feels like she is just miffed that she is not the center of attention anymore.

[greekone]

I read somewhere that it was Rosie O'Donnell of all people that convinced Kathy to apologize. Rosie pointed out that her stunt may have caused James Foley's family (and other families who loss their loved ones via ISIS beheading) unnecessary pain. Why not keep your apology and make it clear that it is directed at the victims' families?

[deeconsistent]

Wow. She released a video "exposing" Harvey Levin, Andy Cohen and all the women she's worked with who didn't protect her. I don't think this comes off like she thinks it does.