Gigiree
Sloane Ranger
Procrastinators Unite. . . Tomorrow.
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Post by Gigiree on Sept 15, 2014 20:51:20 GMT -4
Maybe Mayim needs to move to a remote farm in Arkansas or Iowa away from them there evils in the big city like billboards with ladies showing off their shoulders. Jesus, she's taxing. She'd better stay away from Iowa, then, because a lot of the fields have giant-ass billboards in them touting all sorts of crap that she would hate. They're freaking everywhere--well, them and the giant wind mills. Then she'll have to explain to her precious spawn why wind energy is so much more important than all the little birdies that are taken out by those ginormous blades.
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Post by Spinderella on Sept 16, 2014 1:40:58 GMT -4
If she's so bent out of shape about the evil!sexual!dangers! of Hollywood, THEN MOVE OUT OF HOLLYWOOD.
That huge Ariana Grande billboard is right before you hit Hollywood and Highland when you get off the 101 and it's not tacky. I've seen far worse for an ad for perfume out on the Sunset strip.
Tons of other celebs have separated their two worlds. Hollywood the town they work in and Idaho/Montana/NorCal/enter non-hyped or off-the-beaten-path locale than they use for their off time and home life. It really isn't that hard to grasp. Your location and what you allow to be seen or cause issue with your children is a choice, really.
If your kid is old enough to know what the word "sex" means or that it says sex in the title and it's some how taboo in your family unit, then just explain that to your children and why it's found in our society. We can't all live in the same world as your indigo children, Mayim.
Isn't she also the one that doesn't believe in having her kids say "please" and "thank you"? But that it'll just happen during the natural course of one expressing appreciation? But what if it doesn't? Are you prepared to go out and make sure that society is "prepared" for your unappreciative children?
I don't want to tell people how to parent or live their lives, but that doesn't mean that they can just write something like this and expect the rest of the world to change and be what is best for their personal parenting plan.
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Post by MrsOldManBalls on Sept 16, 2014 7:53:44 GMT -4
If she's so bent out of shape about the evil!sexual!dangers! of Hollywood, THEN MOVE OUT OF HOLLYWOOD. That huge Ariana Grande billboard is right before you hit Hollywood and Highland when you get off the 101 and it's not tacky. I've seen far worse for an ad for perfume out on the Sunset strip. Tons of other celebs have separated their two worlds. Hollywood the town they work in and Idaho/Montana/NorCal/enter non-hyped or off-the-beaten-path locale than they use for their off time and home life. It really isn't that hard to grasp. Your location and what you allow to be seen or cause issue with your children is a choice, really. If your kid is old enough to know what the word "sex" means or that it says sex in the title and it's some how taboo in your family unit, then just explain that to your children and why it's found in our society. We can't all live in the same world as your indigo children, Mayim. Isn't she also the one that doesn't believe in having her kids say "please" and "thank you"? But that it'll just happen during the natural course of one expressing appreciation? But what if it doesn't? Are you prepared to go out and make sure that society is "prepared" for your unappreciative children? I don't want to tell people how to parent or live their lives, but that doesn't mean that they can just write something like this and expect the rest of the world to change and be what is best for their personal parenting plan. WHAT?!?! Her kids don't have use their manners? What the fuck?!?!? I'm so pissed off, I can't even right now. I'll be back to edit later. Edit: Sex sells Miyam. You are smart you know this, in fact you are so smart you know why this is, so just stop with the wining. I asked my kids who Ariana Grande was. ("The girl off that show with the weird voice") She's just the most current starlet, in a loooong line of them, trying to show the world how sexy, grown up and edgy she is now that Disney has cancelled her show. Why call her out specifically? Why not start a dialogue about sexism and misogyny in Hollywood and advertising? I can't be rational about the manners thing yet. Why would you do that to your kids? Little Miss smart-as-Sheldon-in-real-life should know how important manners are in society, and that they do not come naturally and she's setting her kids up to fail but not teaching them these things. I should not be this worked up about a celebrity's child's alleged lack of manners. I need a cup of tea.
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technicolor
Lady in Waiting
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Nov 22, 2010 9:41:42 GMT -4
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Post by technicolor on Sept 16, 2014 8:58:27 GMT -4
She's on The Big Bang Theory. That show has its own set of issues with gender representation. So you could argue that she herself participates in a vehicle that is endorsing the same kind of exploitative and mysogynist messages she condemns here. And I agree that it's not very productive to single out Grande instead of focusing on the politics of advertising. I know she probably did it because she knew that would get her more attention, but it doesn't make for a very useful discussion IMO.
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Post by discoprincess on Sept 16, 2014 9:13:40 GMT -4
If she's so bent out of shape about the evil!sexual!dangers! of Hollywood, THEN MOVE OUT OF HOLLYWOOD. That huge Ariana Grande billboard is right before you hit Hollywood and Highland when you get off the 101 and it's not tacky. I've seen far worse for an ad for perfume out on the Sunset strip. Tons of other celebs have separated their two worlds. Hollywood the town they work in and Idaho/Montana/NorCal/enter non-hyped or off-the-beaten-path locale than they use for their off time and home life. Yes, Demi Moore did it for a bit, then...we know how her story played out. Playing devil's advocate: If having a Jewish upbringing for her kids is important to Mayim, maybe staying California is key as the CA Jewish community is larger than it would be in Montana or Idaho.
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celerydunk
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Post by celerydunk on Sept 16, 2014 9:27:13 GMT -4
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Post by GirlyGhoul on Sept 16, 2014 10:10:03 GMT -4
Dear Mayim's kids: A message from the Litch. She's very exasperating. I notice that whenever she presents one of her unconventional ideas she states "Confused yet?" Not confused, dear. Just getting a mild headache from the eyerolls. Teach your kids to say thank you and please- not just by showing but by telling. No, you don't have to go overboard with the scolding or punishment. A simple reminder "Say 'thank you, sweetie!'" will do. If you have relatives give your kids stuff and not getting thanked for it- that means your kid didn't get the message by just watching your behavior. Kids get excited when someone gives them something- so being polite and using their manners isn't what's foremost on their mind. They need to be reminded to be gracious in the moment. That's not harshing their chi or wounding their spuchul inner being. It's just helping them function in POLITE society. If a relative gives them a gift and doesn't get a 'thank you'... just wait til next birthday, or Hanukkah or whatever and see if Aunty or Cousin gives your ungrateful brat anything else. And that's not on your kid- that's on YOU. And I'm not down with the not instructing kids to share either. That's kind of baby's first exposure to the fact that there are other people in the world besides them with basic wants and needs. In other words, the world doesn't revolve around them. It's not a horrible lesson to teach. Ye gods- I hope this kids at least get to watch Seseme Street so Burt and Ernie can teach them how to share if mommy and daddy won't!
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Post by famvir on Sept 16, 2014 10:10:43 GMT -4
Mayim gets no further cred from me because she's brainy and has a PHD, a lot of people I know have MDs and PHDs, that doesn't make them authorities on that which they did not study. The most brilliant man I know in real life, Bill Joy, (who invented Java Language and is the head of Sun Microsystems), let's just say, I wouldn't take parenting advice from him.
You take away the "I'm smarter than you" element, that puts Mayim on a par with Jenny McCarthy and chew up food and feed the baby like a bird does Clueless chick, which is about right. My daughter was not speaking/processing correctly, which we caught early and it was a godsend. Trusting that 17 months is a good time to walk, your son doesn't roll over until he's a year old, the younger one doesn't say word one until he is past two, and you are all right with this? The kids don't say Please and Thank You because they don't talk!
I did a demo with Mayim back in the day, and she was pathologically shy. I have never seen anyone more uncomfortable in a group than she. She had her head down and looked like she was going to throw up. This is not someone I would take parenting advice on the socialization of children. But hey, they are her kids, I just am a bit appalled by the "I'm smart, watch me dole out parenting advise," and people give her credence because she plays a smart, socially functioning person on a TV show.
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Post by chonies on Sept 16, 2014 18:33:07 GMT -4
Mayim gets no further cred from me because she's brainy and has a PHD, a lot of people I know have MDs and PHDs, that doesn't make them authorities on that with they did not study. The most brilliant man I know in real life, Bill Joy, (who invented Java Language and is the head of Sun Microsystems), let's just say, I wouldn't take parenting advice from him. No, but see, a PhD means you know how to think about things!! And a PhD means you studied a lot that you didn't write your dissertation about!!!!!!!!!! kill. And I agree--Mayim may have found what works for her and her kids (and I have no idea if her spawn are rude or not), but her PhD doesn't convince me of much of anything.
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Post by Oxynia on Sept 16, 2014 18:51:18 GMT -4
She did her PhD in neuroscience with a thesis on Prader-Willi Syndrome, an esoteric chromosomal disorder. Hardly qualifies her to pontificate on behavioral matters of any kind that aren't genetically oriented. Raising kids to not learn basic manners is not about science, it's about opinion and that makes her no different than any other parent on the planet. So she can shut up now.
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