Yeah, That Happened: Topics in History

[divasahm]

Oct 3, 2019 9:46:19 GMT -4 @fitz said:

These are really lovely 2 new Irish stamps to mark 50 years of Thin Lizzy
I’ve always liked Jim Fitzpatrick’s artwork. I pick a few of these when I can.
Also interesting I don’t think I’ve seen his daughters since they were little.

Wow! Those are lovely, @fitz--thanks for sharing them!

[chiqui]

I didn't know he had kids!

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Yeah 2 Girls, They each have their own song.... Sarah and Cathleen they were around 8 and 6 when he died, footage at his funeral was the last time I remember seeing anything about them, they both have families so Phil is a grandad.

He also had a son, born in 1968, when Phil was 18 who had been put up for adoption. In 2003, Macdaragh Lambe learned that Lynott was his biological father, and this was confirmed by Philomena Lynott in 2010.


I picked up a sheet of the stamps they really are beautiful. A genuinely lovely tribute to him and Thin Lizzy, I’m sure his mother knew it was in production before she passed she would be very proud.

[Carolina]

It's appalling that Thin Lizzy has yet to be inducted into The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.

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I wasn't aware of that a quick Google tells they have been eligible since 1996, that's crinmal.
Cmon now Lizzy for Hall of Fame!

Apologies I seem to have hijacked the history thread....
Apparently The Mickey Mouse Club began on this day in 1955 on ABC, so yeah topic
And in 1995 OJ was found "not guilty" of murder.

[chonies]

This is probably going to sound colossally stupid, but could someone explain Joan of Arc to me? The story I know goes like this: things are bad in France because inheritance issues/England, a peasant girl/young woman gets a message from God (?) and ends up leading an army and then is captured, tried in an inquisition, refuses to recant, burned at the stake and then exonerated a few years. What I’m not sure about are the whys here. What was France like at the time? Is she venerated because she was female, and what is the Actual role of the divine aspect of the story? And what was she fighting for or against?

I’ve read through a few pages but nothing really seems to answer my questions. This was also stirred up by seeing her included in a list of children’s books about she-roes alongside Harriet Tubman and Sacagawea. I know about both Harriet Tubman and Sacagawea in detail but realized I’m missing a lot of context for Joan. I fee like the worst Francophile ever.

[ladyboy]

I can't help you, but I did see the Joan of Arc play that was on at the Public by David Byrne and it was terrible. I was left with similar questions. WHY WHAT WHY.

[prisma]

Oct 19, 2019 16:46:15 GMT -4 chonies said:

This is probably going to sound colossally stupid, but could someone explain Joan of Arc to me? The story I know goes like this: things are bad in France because inheritance issues/England, a peasant girl/young woman gets a message from God (?) and ends up leading an army and then is captured, tried in an inquisition, refuses to recant, burned at the stake and then exonerated a few years. What I’m not sure about are the whys here. What was France like at the time? Is she venerated because she was female, and what is the Actual role of the divine aspect of the story? And what was she fighting for or against?

I’ve read through a few pages but nothing really seems to answer my questions. This was also stirred up by seeing her included in a list of children’s books about she-roes alongside Harriet Tubman and Sacagawea. I know about both Harriet Tubman and Sacagawea in detail but realized I’m missing a lot of context for Joan. I fee like the worst Francophile ever.

I'm going to make it really highbrow and compare it to Game of Thrones. I think it would be like if Arya (the Joan of this story, pretending Arya was pious) helped install Jon Snow as King of the North and got a reputation throughout Westeros as a badass. But then in a battle with the Lannisters Arya is captured and to make a big point Cersei executes the northern badass girl. Jokes on Cersei though, because the legend of Arya because bigger than she was in real life.

Joan lived during the 100 years' war between England and France, which is one of the wars that inspired Game of Thrones, so GoT really does help contextualize it.

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[name nerd rant] All I know is that her French name, Jeanne D’Arc, does not translate to Joan of Arc. D’Arc was a reference to her father’s surname (which was probably Darc) so her surname and didn’t mean “of” a place. She was from a village called Domremy. Surnames also weren’t really much of a thing back then, and it was actually the custom where she was from at the time for one to use their mother’s surname if they used one. So in reality she just went by Jeanne. [/name nerd rant]

[chonies]

Oct 19, 2019 21:15:54 GMT -4 prisma said:

Oct 19, 2019 16:46:15 GMT -4 chonies said:

This is probably going to sound colossally stupid, but could someone explain Joan of Arc to me? The story I know goes like this: things are bad in France because inheritance issues/England, a peasant girl/young woman gets a message from God (?) and ends up leading an army and then is captured, tried in an inquisition, refuses to recant, burned at the stake and then exonerated a few years. What I’m not sure about are the whys here. What was France like at the time? Is she venerated because she was female, and what is the Actual role of the divine aspect of the story? And what was she fighting for or against?

I’ve read through a few pages but nothing really seems to answer my questions. This was also stirred up by seeing her included in a list of children’s books about she-roes alongside Harriet Tubman and Sacagawea. I know about both Harriet Tubman and Sacagawea in detail but realized I’m missing a lot of context for Joan. I fee like the worst Francophile ever.

I'm going to make it really highbrow and compare it to Game of Thrones. I think it would be like if Arya (the Joan of this story, pretending Arya was pious) helped install Jon Snow as King of the North and got a reputation throughout Westeros as a badass. But then in a battle with the Lannisters Arya is captured and to make a big point Cersei executes the northern badass girl. Jokes on Cersei though, because the legend of Arya because bigger than she was in real life.

Joan lived during the 100 years' war between England and France, which is one of the wars that inspired Game of Thrones, so GoT really does help contextualize it.

I haven't seen a single episode of Game of Thrones, but to extend the metaphor, who was the Cersei analog in actual 15th century European history?