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Post by MrsOldManBalls on Feb 14, 2015 10:09:48 GMT -4
I'm in Empire Withdrawl already!! Every day needs to be Wed.
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Feb 19, 2015 23:27:00 GMT -4
Post by Atreides on Feb 19, 2015 23:27:00 GMT -4
Just delicious last night! The totally soapy ending with Lucious and Cookie getting it on with Anika walking in was glorious. And frankly, Boo Boo Kitty got a well-deserved karmic kick for the vile thing she did to Elle.
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Feb 20, 2015 9:24:15 GMT -4
Post by biondetta on Feb 20, 2015 9:24:15 GMT -4
Damn. Boo Boo Kitty was downright evil doing that to Elle.
Does anyone know who the actor is playing a potential love interest for Jamal, as shown in the upcoming episodes bit? I'm trying to remember where I've seen him before.
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Post by GirlyGhoul on Feb 20, 2015 10:43:57 GMT -4
COOKIE GOT SOME NOOKIE! WOO HOO!! I knew she and Luscious would eventually give in and have some mad hate-love'n or in this case, probably genuine love-love'n. I wasn't expecting it to be immediately after Luscious got out of intensive care- but hey, live for the moment I reckon. Besides, Boo Boo Kitty walking in just then was SUPER delicious! A whole solid gold bowl full of candy DELICIOUS! Esp. after what she did to Courtney Love! (Hey, knocking out CL! That's Madonna or Dave Grohl's job!) I thought she was more than just a Boo Boo Kitty, but then she went and proved me wrong. I know her aim was to sabotage Cookie, but she ultimately could have sabotaged the whole event and therefore Luscious, and therefore her meal ticket! Duh, Boo Boo Kitty, DUH! Now unless she has something on Luscious (and knowing her she probably does) she's outta luck in the Second Wife Dept. First Wife's got it all! MWAH HA HA HA HA!!! Cookie Rules!!! Poor Luscious, though. I really felt bad for him. I think Dr. Conrad Murray, Jr. did give him some false hopes and now he's worse off than ever. Still, his collapse struck me funnier than it should have. It's not funny at all, really. But damn it, when he put his hands up to his head I was half expecting him to shout " You're tearing me apart, COOKIE!!! And yet, as sorry as I felt for him, he worked that conference call from his hospital bed like a BOSS! (Cliche, yes... but it's true!) I give it to all the Lyons. They are perfect at triumphing over disaster! The whole concert/ presentation went off without a hitch- and that was all with CL tiptoeing through the tulips after Anika added more herbal refreshment to her herbal tea and Luscious almost having to Weekend at Bernie's his own failing body. The boys pulled themselves together in an instant (Even with Hakeem drinking his weight and singing some Cuckoo song) and Cookie came up with the wallet opening speech that was WAAAAY better than what Anika probably had written. Boo Boo Kitty's stock plummeted this week! HA HA!! But this has been the Lyon way so far (Take Jamal throwing together his hit single in one night after Andre's 'sabotage', and Cookie's on the fly press conference) Their enemies should know better than to mess with any of them- because they don't just roll with the punches, they soar above them! Still, now that Luscious has come clean, Andre's come undone. I think Rhonda can pull him together (through EVIL!) But I think I felt most sorry for him. Luscious is looking death in the eye... but he seems finally clear in what he must do (And for the moment... that's Cookie!) And it also seems he may be able to make peace with his sons. The younger ones at least. Their three-way hug was sweet and touching. Heck, for once I didn't actually want to punch Hakeem! Also, his advice to Jamal about Michael's leaving. He simply said Jamal needs to find someone who can be with an artist... which is true. But for once he didn't say: "And it better be a WOMAN!" Nope, he just said 'someone'. And that's the best Luscious has done for Jamal so far. Hopefully he's seeing the light and accepting his child for who he is- completely. Sucks that it takes a death sentence for that to happen- but that's how it is in life more often than not. This news might actually make Hakeem grow up at last and finally become less punchable. (Because when he gave Naomi Campbell that necklace.... POW! ZAP! Straight to the MOON!) How cute is Jamal's maybe kid? When the elevator was stuck and finally came down, I was half expecting a dead body (I watch too many Horror Movies) But she was so cute, all abandoned with her little stuffed buddy and suitcase. D'awwww!! And everyone wants the new security guy to guard their assets (yeah, that's what they're calling it these days). There was this old BoyzIIMen video where a Security Guy set up a new home system for some random foxy single lady and then the rest of the video was all her dreaming about him in the bath while he plagerized 'I'll Make Love to You' in a letter to her. Every time someone give this Security Guy the goo-goo eyes, that song starts playing in my head. I could see him going for Cookie, of course- And that may be the big conflict now that she and Luscious are playing 'Let's Pretend We're [still] Married'. Becky, I'm not sure about. Her hair grows more and more terrifying each week. Last night there were some scenes where it looked like she opened two packages of Ramen Noodles and glued them on either side of her head. Sad stuff. Maybe he'll wind up with Porsha... although, maybe he'll wind up with Jamal! Or, most likely- He'll wind up EVIL!!! I think he's part of Vernon and Andre/Rhonda's plot! If Andre can pull himself out of the bathtub long enough to execute it that is. Heck, at this point, everyone is so sneaky and underhanded and up to no good, I half way expect Cute Maybe Jamal's Kid to pull off her teddy bear's head and speak into it's neck: 'Love Child to Red Leader! Love Child to Red Leader! Have penetrated the Imperial Fortress! Will proceed with inside take-over at 0100 hours!' And now if you'll excuse me. I'm off to shower in all my clothes until next Wednesday... Empire Withdrawl is a bitch!
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Feb 20, 2015 12:33:42 GMT -4
Post by Mutagen on Feb 20, 2015 12:33:42 GMT -4
I have to say, as soapy as this show is, the characters are really well drawn. I thought Andre's reaction to the ALS news was just a great piece of writing and acting. He totally went into "fix it, cover for dad, be the best son" mode and lost it as it sunk in that there was nothing he could do. Also I think Andre could've beaten Hakeem to a bloody smear on the floor if it had come to an actual fight. His rage and aggression are so deeply buried that (as we saw) it's explosive when he finally does lose his temper.
Anika is complete trash for what she did to Elle. It was kind of evilly brilliant, though -- because even if the truth eventually comes out, the trust between Cookie and Elle is probably destroyed forever.
The "Jamal's kid" storyline is still kind of stupid to me, but the child actress is completely adorable. And I agree with you, GirlyGhoul, about Gabby Sidibe. Did she shoot someone's dog in the wardrobe/hair/makeup department? Because they have done her wrong more often than not.
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Post by Atreides on Feb 20, 2015 20:11:55 GMT -4
Damn. Boo Boo Kitty was downright evil doing that to Elle. Does anyone know who the actor is playing a potential love interest for Jamal, as shown in the upcoming episodes bit? I'm trying to remember where I've seen him before. Eka Darville. You might know him as the Red Power Ranger (not the one that murdered his roommate with the sword, the other one!) or maybe as Pietros from Spartacus.
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Feb 21, 2015 6:04:31 GMT -4
Post by biondetta on Feb 21, 2015 6:04:31 GMT -4
Thanks, Atreides! It's actually The Originals that I know him from.
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Feb 26, 2015 1:02:27 GMT -4
Post by sugarhigh on Feb 26, 2015 1:02:27 GMT -4
I'm so pissed. I missed tonight's episode and it's taking everything in me not to read spoilers before I watch it!
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Feb 26, 2015 9:54:23 GMT -4
Post by Mutagen on Feb 26, 2015 9:54:23 GMT -4
Oooooh sugarhigh. Watch it as soon as you can. This episode was firing on all cylinders!
I hope this show ends up being a huge break for the guy who plays Andre, because he is slowly turning out to be my favorite actor on the show not named Taraji P. Henson.
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Post by GirlyGhoul on Feb 26, 2015 14:03:47 GMT -4
Don't look sugarhigh! Don't look! Spoilery below!!
This was another episode that came off more quietly than most... and yet it still packed a mighty punch. Of all the surprises throughout, the one I did not see coming was Luscious scrapping the album that they'd spent the whole episode putting together!! Buh! Buh! It's all about the MUSIC, Luscious!! Don't poop on the MUSIC!!! ('Cause I know this is a fictional show, and that would have been a fictional album... but the way it was shaping up, I totally would have bought it!! You know, if either they released the album as a promotional gimmic for the show... Or else I found a magic TV Remote and zapped myself into the Empire Universe where I could buy such an album... and maybe sneak past the security guard to roll on the Lyons' beds, borrow their clothes and shoes and steal from their candy bowls... Either way!)
Have you ever seen the Simpsons episode where Bart and Lisa are rival hockey players and Homer keeps changing who he roots for and loves depending on which team is winning? ("I love Bart!!".... "No, wait! I love Lisa!!") That's how I feel watching this Show most times. Characters keep shifting in their admirablity or suckitude so my opinions keep shifting just as quickly. ("I love Rhonda! Hakeem sucks!!..... "No no, wait! I love Hakeem! Rhonda sucks!!" "Anika's a Hoochie! No wait, she rules! No... Anika's a Hoochie!!)
But yes, Hakeem's stock went up this episode while Rhonda's plummeted! Poor woman, where was her bib when she needed it most! And her very green facial mask... Was that foreshadowing or what?!? BWAH HA HA! But I really thought she would have held it together better. Maybe if Andre hadn't given her that 'Sucks to be you tonight, sweetie!" look before the 'games' began. But while I don't blame her for finally putting her foot down and stopping the 'games', it's effectively broken up her Dynamic Duo of Evilness with 'Dre... And Dre needs his Rhonda... BAD!
Poor Poor Andre!! He's going through a lot! I'd feel bad for him anyway not having the musical chops to be included on the family album (But hey. They could have at least given him a speaking part! How musical do you have to be to say 'Up! Down! Up! Down!' 80 times?) But his Daddy's dying, he's not getting voted into the CEO position, and his wife is done giving lap dances to old wheelchair dudes FOR EVIL!! I was briefly afraid they WOULD kill him off just because... well yeah, where does he fit in the Empire if he can't sing and isn't being given any control of the company? Power and Music is all he knows and he's getting shut out of both! Poor Poor Andre! If I could find that magic remote and zap myself into your world, I'd give you a HUG! (Then steal your wife's shoes...)
I really though Luscious was coming around with accepting Jamal... But lo and behold he doesn't actually accept ANY of his sons' romantic leanings! Andre likes white ladies! Hakeem likes old ladies! Jamal likes NO ladies! What's a Father to do?!?!? Well damn, you'd think it wouldn't matter! Love is love and Mr. One Arm 'Round the Boo Boo Kitty/ One Hand in the Cookie Jar shouldn't be so judgmental when it comes to his kids' choices. But I guess that's part of who he is. He's got a little Archie Bunker in his JR Ewing/ Suge Knight style. I'm still just stunned he'd scrap that album over it!
Maybe when Boo Boo Kitty starts whatever she's about to start at JuddNelson!Records they'll have to slap that album together after all to counteract whatever it is she's cooking up... (HOOCHIE!!)
I loved Jamal's moment tonight. Right before he did his thing, I was really struck that he and his Dad were dressed in a very similar fashion at the White Party. Jamal truly is fulfilling his father's musical legacy- in a much more mirroring way than Hakeem or especially Andre. He's also literally transforming his father's music and bringing it to the next generation. Plus, he's so far the first to possibly have produced an offspring! If that's not granting Luscious immortality, I don't know what! And what does Luscious do? Toss both his son and the music in the trash! What a fool. Don't let your Archie Bunker side trump your JR Ewing, Luscious!
But Jamal got his revenge without even knowing it. He came out, just to be himself. But ironically, Boo Boo Kitty had set up the moment saying there would be an 'announcement' at the party. It was supposed to be her and Luscious's wedding announcement. But it became Jamal's coming out announcement... He stole their thunder without even trying! That was a BEAUTIFUL thing! I've been saying I didn't think Jamal had it in him to win the Empire because he didn't play dirty enough. But I take it all back! He'll win the Empire without even trying! After Andre, Hakeem, and Vernon have exhausted themselves struggling, scheming, and squabbling, Jamal will be like Young Arthur pulling the Sword from the Stone without breaking a sweat. Luscious can pout and haterate on Jamal all he wants. But the next Emperor's Clothes will involve a head scarf and high heels! MA HA HA HA!! Suck it, Luscious!!
Hakeem made good this episode! I think he's finally growing up. I wasn't feeling his continued dissing of Cookie (What did she ever do to him? It's not her fault she went to jail!) But he's not afraid to show off his 'old' lady now, and he's not afraid to show his pride in his brother! AWWWWWW! So sweet! I'm glad the Little Bros are back together... Even if Big Bro is off playing Russian Roulette (Erm.... someone go check on him, maybe...? I'd do it myself with my magic remote, but Cookie's closet is much too distracting!)
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