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Post by canuckcutie on Nov 13, 2017 20:58:18 GMT -4
He didn’t apologize. He admitted his guilt but his statement was a pity party for himself. No apology for his victims.
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Post by Ladybug on Aug 28, 2018 9:49:10 GMT -4
Guess who's trying to make a comeback.He was defended on Twitter by Michael Ian Black, which really disgusts me. "Woke" men are woke until it's one of their buddies, then shouldn't we all be nice and move on and give these dirtbags a 2nd chance? Oh, and Louis CK did not "serve time." He actually faced no legal consequences for what he did.
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Post by canuckcutie on Aug 28, 2018 11:02:58 GMT -4
All of these guys will start to slither their way back into public view. Matt Lauer has apparently telling people he expects to be back on tv and sadly he’s probably right. People will continue to excuse these men and give them opportunity after opportunity even though their behaviour robbed so many women of similar opportunities.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 11:24:26 GMT -4
Must be nice to be a rich, powerful, white man who the patriarchy is designed to protect.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 11:47:38 GMT -4
Can someone remind me again how sexual assault allegations destroy mens' careers?
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Post by kostgard on Aug 28, 2018 11:52:03 GMT -4
Guess who's trying to make a comeback.He was defended on Twitter by Michael Ian Black, which really disgusts me. "Woke" men are woke until it's one of their buddies, then shouldn't we all be nice and move on and give these dirtbags a 2nd chance? Oh, and Louis CK did not "serve time." He actually faced no legal consequences for what he did. Like, I get Michael Ian Black's point that there could be a path for redemption, but I don't think it should apply in all cases (Weinstein, for example, should never come back) and the guy in question has to show the work that he's done. Louis C.K. hasn't done that. He basically took a sabbatical and then just went back to doing stand up. We aren't sending these guys to "time out" and then they can just come back and play after they've sat there for long enough and thought about what they did. If someone gets a path to redemption, they need to actually earn it. And in a lot of cases, they just can't and shouldn't get back to the level they were at. |
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Post by eveschmeve on Aug 28, 2018 11:58:34 GMT -4
Yeah, I also agree with Michael Ian Black’s premise, but I don’t think Louis is a good test case for this. He didn’t really apologize for his actions, he just took some time off. What has he done in the meantime?
I don’t know what it would take for Louis to come back, and I say this as a former fan and someone who has seen him live multiple times. I think a basic show of contrition would help, and the fact that his stand up set was reported to be the same type of jokes he’s always done doesn’t bode well for that.
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Post by kostgard on Aug 28, 2018 12:10:56 GMT -4
Yeah, I also agree with Michael Ian Black’s premise, but I don’t think Louis is a good test case for this. He didn’t really apologize for his actions, he just took some time off. What has he done in the meantime? I don’t know what it would take for Louis to come back, and I say this as a former fan and someone who has seen him live multiple times. I think a basic show of contrition would help, and the fact that his stand up set was reported to be the same type of jokes he’s always done doesn’t bode well for that. Lord. If Louis comes back, it needs to be with a different brand of stand up, ESPECIALLY since so much of his stand up now sounds like a confession. Again, I get the idea of a path to redemption and I'm open to the idea, but one thing that has to be true for everyone is that you can't just go back to business as usual. Things have to change. You don't get to just go back to your career like nothing happened. And I get people being concerned for people they believe deserve a second chance and how that can happen, but they also need to look at the other side of the equation - the women he harmed. If Louis gets a path to redemption, what do they get? |
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Post by Ladybug on Aug 28, 2018 12:26:38 GMT -4
Didn't some of his victims leave comedy all together after their encounters with him? These incidents all happened at comedy clubs and backstage at shows, I think that's why it really seems TOO SOON to me. What if you are a female comic at one of his comeback shows? I hope the ladies read him for filth on stage. And he's never really showed contrition or understanding of why what he did is WRONG.
Same with Matt Lauer. How in anyone's right mind could you think of giving that man a job on camera!? He had a button on his desk to lock the door and he sexually assaulted a woman! Like, how much worse does it have to get? And the man has enough money to never work again! I don't understand the need to put him back on tv.
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Post by mrspickles on Aug 28, 2018 12:42:48 GMT -4
How much would it say if Louis put together a show that used HIS name recognition to sell tickets, but during which he was the minor league opening act who then turned the mic over to a slate of women he's screwed over in the past? Y'know - give them an opportunity that he took from them?
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