The Un-US Politics Discussion Scenario

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Mary Robinson appointed Chair of The Elders This makes me as an Irish person and as a young woman back in 1990 I voted for her as Our First female President very proud indeed. The Elders being the Independent global leaders working together for peace and human rights. Founded by Nelson Mandela in 2007.


Lovely interview with Mary Robinson by Sinead Burke for British Vogue
Sinead herself is quite the Trailblazer too.

[chonies]

The coverage of Brexit deal this morning seems unlikely—both sides are calling to reject it, and it sounds like a second referendum may be more likely.

Also, it’s 500 pages long and apparently no one has read it because it hasn’t been made available.

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Apparently yesterday MPs were called one by one to Downing St to review the document Cabinet will be called on it at 2pm GMT today, its all a bit called to Principals office given homework to have a paper on tmrw. I have no idea what is going on, tho some think Irish media got a heads up on some detail yesterday and that upset some people I'll add link if I find it.

Possible outcomes of today may be
1 Nothing just kick the can further down the road
2 it all kicks off and there is a leadership challenge
3 Snap Election
4 talks to talk about possible 2nd ref
5 see number 1.

[chonies]

Someone* did express exasperation that the debate needs to end somehow, which could be buying in to a crummy solution just to get it all over with, or pushing to annul the whole thing. But March 2019 is practically next week, so it will be an interesting 4 months.

*Not Lord Heseltine, who looks like he was pulled straight from central casting for an episode of Death in Paradise or Midsomer Murders.

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No link on mobile. But it looks like Theresa May has got backing from her cabinet ministers on the Draft Brexit Agreement after a very difficult meeting cabinet is very split about it. Eta Allegedly up to 10 apposed so a bare majority back it. There may be resignations ahead..
Now she has to convince the DUP (good luck with that) who will certainly block it so meeting with DUP leader Arlene Foster tonight will be fun for Theresa...
Eta whoever did this its genius Arlene, Arlene, Arleeene please dont break my plan just because you can

Brussels to comment later... eta Re Barnier ie Brussels statement well I'm as clear as mud about all that sounds like, border is still being sorted but sort of sorted for now....
So still a long way to go

I still feel there will be a leadership challenge sooner rather than later.
I can see brothers Boris Johnson and Jo Johnson(who resigned minister position last week) going up against each other they seem to have differing views and that abomination Jacob Rees Mogg involved too.
One commentate I just saw mentioned Tory civil war.

Fun times ahead. Prepare for chaos ... Brexit is about to blow-up

[Martini Girl]

Nov 14, 2018 15:45:26 GMT -4 @fitz said:

Fun times ahead. Prepare for chaos ... Brexit is about to blow-up

But wasn't it always? I've believed that it was such a poorly thought out proposition, that it would always be incredibly chaotic-- no matter which way it went. I've just always expected a complete clusterf*ck.

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Yeah, the shit has been heading towards the fan since the vote, the shit is just getting even closer to the fan now, maybe about to actually hit it any time, a shitshow in slo-mo.

[biondetta]

Jan 28, 2017 19:55:22 GMT -4 @fitz said:

and that abomination Jacob Rees Mogg

Talk about direct from Central Casting. I remember the first time I saw him years ago and couldn't believe he wasn't a comedian playing an awful character, particularly as he was on a panel show with other comedians. Nope. He's real. Listening to him during the lead-up to the Brexit vote was particularly awful.

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2 cabinet ministers resigned this morning already, including Brexit Sexretary Dominic Raab


Actually is 5 resignations 2 cabinet ministers and 3 junior ministers including just now junior Brexit Minister
May to speak to Parliament in a short while.

This deal is dead it was barely there but stick a fork in it its done.



Jacob Reese Mogg just ask why he shouldn't put forward a vote of no confidence in Theresa May eta as of 1pm GMT he has submitted a vote of No Confidence I assume if it gets backing it could mean a Leadership Challenge.

Eta 1.25pm GMT
Northern Ireland Secretary resigned. That's 6 or 7 now can't keep up.

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Nov 15, 2018 4:20:33 GMT -4 biondetta said:

Jan 28, 2017 19:55:22 GMT -4 @fitz said:

and that abomination Jacob Rees Mogg

Talk about direct from Central Casting. I remember the first time I saw him years ago and couldn't believe he wasn't a comedian playing an awful character, particularly as he was on a panel show with other comedians. Nope. He's real. Listening to him during the lead-up to the Brexit vote was particularly awful.

Christ on a cracker, the names on his Wikipedia page read like an early draft of a Wodehouse novel.

he has been praised as a conviction politician whose anachronistic upper-class mannerisms and consciously traditionalist attitudes are often seen as entertaining, and has been dubbed the "Honourable Member for the 18th century"

Also, six children in 11 years:

Peter Theodore Alphege
Mary Anne Charlotte Emma
Thomas Wentworth Somerset Dunstan
Anselm Charles Fitzwilliam
Alfred Wulfric Leyson Pius
Sixtus Dominic Boniface Christopher

Also, his late father in law: Somerset de Chair.

De Chair wrote historical non-fiction, a number of now largely neglected novels, one play, three collections of poetry, and several works of autobiography.

I love the idea of incorporating "May your novels be largely neglected," as a curse, sort of like, "the book of my enemy has been remaindered."

I like old houses and old cars, too, but holy shit Rees Mogg is Lord Tool of the entire peerage of Toolboxes.