Taylor Swift

[ahah]

Nov 20, 2021 4:49:44 GMT -4 alpierce said:

Nov 18, 2021 22:16:51 GMT -4 ahah said:

Yes. When you’ve got fans as devoted as she knows hers are, and she centers the promotion of an album over a song she knows they know is about him, that’s exactly what she’s doing. She markets loyalty to her as being fighting her fights.

There’s no sales requirement for her to own the music, right? So she could record it all again, release it as a legal move rather than a marketing one, and she’d own it. The promotion to make the rehash a huge sales boom is about her ego, not the technicality needed to own her music.

And I don’t rip on her for writing about her exes. I rip on her for all the clues and desperate need for everyone to figure out who she’s talking about. It goes from self expression to self obsession.

Since she doesn't own the rights to the music then it's doubtful she makes much if any money from album sales anymore. I don't know what record contracts are like but I would guess that the reason she is doing this is because the owner of the rights to these recordings is making the money that Swift believes should be hers.

Think Michael Jackson when he bought the Beatles catalog. For many years the surviving Beatles did not own the rights to their own music. I believe they were eventually sold back somehow but it took a lot of negotiating

I understand the whole music ownership. I think you may have missed my point. By rereleasing, she gets the ownership. Mission accomplished once it’s released. Promoting the hell out of it including reworking the SNL segment structure to perform a ten minute song is intended not to get ownership of the songs but to sell as many as possible, pride herself in getting people to rebuy what they already own, and get as much attention as possible for her victim hood.

[Ladybug]

“All Too Well” is one of her fans’ favorite songs. It was never released as a single but gained a cult following. That's not because the fans wanted to figure out the mystery of who it’s about. The song resonates with a lot of people who’ve been hurt by a break up. I took my daughter to see Taylor’s Reputation tour and when she sang this the crowd went nuts and sang every word along with her. She commented on how the song took on a life of its own and she never expected it to become so beloved. One of the reasons she’s made such a big deal of the release of her re-recording is that she knows her fans love this song so much.

[wixy]

I never liked Taylor much, I used to find her disingenuous and cloying and just fake, for lack of a better word. But I have so much respect for her post Kanye shenanigans, the whole snake debacle, being dragged by Kardashian stans, and especially now how she's handled her music masters issue. It's a great example to other women in the industry to boss up and finesse a solution for themselves. She coulda kept crying about the men not allowing her to own her music, coulda kept Tweeting about them, but she found a way to come out on top.

I don't have much use for all the clues and hints in songs, but at this point, that's part of her schtick. Her fans know it and welcome it. This latest thing about Jake Gyllenhaal will blow over. It came up again because she re-released her new (old) album. He'll live. It's not that deep.

[lea1977]

The pattern that Taylor has with her old relationships seems to be that she was way more invested in the relationship than the guy she was dating ever was.

[luckylexie]

I’m 47, so until this summer, I knew who Taylor Swift was but didn’t know her songs (aside from Shake it Off). Good on her for re-recording her songs. I haven’t listened to her entire catalog of music, but I really like Blank Space and Willow.

[boricuamusicfan]

I used to love her when she was entirely country. Her first album was a cheesy, twangy ode to lovestruck teenager diary musings everywhere, but it was a huge part of her rough-hewn, down-home country charm. The more famous she got, the more Hollywood-polished she became, and the farther away from country her music moved, the less interested I was in her.

[cremetangerine82]

I felt like an outcast at my former job, because they worship Taylor Swift like a goddess, and I could not give less of a shit about her music. I will defend the very sexist “she only sings about relationships!”, because every music artist is usually going to talk about love in some capacity, whether falling in love or breaking up, no one gives any grief about the male artists who do the same thing.

[ahah]

Dec 3, 2021 17:09:10 GMT -4 cremetangerine82 said:

I felt like an outcast at my former job, because they worship Taylor Swift like a goddess, and I could not give less of a shit about her music. I will defend the very sexist “she only sings about relationships!”, because every music artist is usually going to talk about love in some capacity, whether falling in love or breaking up, no one gives any grief about the male artists who do the same thing.

You're right that a huge percentage of songs written are about relationships. To me, the issue with Taylor is that her songs seem to all be about HER in her relationships. Compare George Harrison writing Something with the focus being how incredible the woman is to Taylor writing a long list of songs about herself.

[Ladybug]

Taylor has written a lot about her current boyfriend Joe. But I feel like even if those lyrics meet the criteria of being sufficiently about someone else and not about Taylor's feelings, folks would find other things to nitpick her songwriting about.

[lordofthefries]

Dec 6, 2021 8:14:45 GMT -4 ahah said:

Dec 3, 2021 17:09:10 GMT -4 cremetangerine82 said:

I felt like an outcast at my former job, because they worship Taylor Swift like a goddess, and I could not give less of a shit about her music. I will defend the very sexist “she only sings about relationships!”, because every music artist is usually going to talk about love in some capacity, whether falling in love or breaking up, no one gives any grief about the male artists who do the same thing.

You're right that a huge percentage of songs written are about relationships. To me, the issue with Taylor is that her songs seem to all be about HER in her relationships. Compare George Harrison writing Something with the focus being how incredible the woman is to Taylor writing a long list of songs about herself.

I think one of the reasons that Taylor resonates with so many people is that we actually have very little media that is created by young women for young women about their own lives and experiences. I'd take Taylor writing about her relationships any day over some middle aged rock star writing about his latest young muse.